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[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 95 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Programming languages, much like the jackass in the middle, are tools. Different tools are for different things. The right tool for the job can make your day. The wrong tool can make you question your entire career.

[–] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Funny how tools are useful. But a person who is a tool is not.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

A tool of a person is a fool who is being used by someone else. They might not be useful to you, but to who ever makes the koolaid they're drinking, they're a very good tool.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I think that's the basic idea, but in practice it's used for people who are just generally dumb as well.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Eh, people misuse terms all the time. It shouldn't change what it's meant to mean.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Well, when was the last time you looked at a hammer and thought "y'know, you're pretty smart!"

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Tools are always useful. If its a good thing to (ab)use said tool depends on the tool and if its human or not :p
... And the job for the tool ofc

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Exactly. And what is the best tool? The best tool for the job

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what is the best tool?

AI! (This message brought to you by The Microsoft Marketing Dept.)

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago

No silly! It's clearly a goat, possibly a whole farm of them

[–] BatmanAoD@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's just not terribly meaningful, though. Was JavaScript the "best tool" for client-side logic from the death of Flash until the advent of TypeScript? No, it was the only tool.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're halfway there.

Yes, it was the best tool, in context

In that context, what was better?

[–] kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

Exactly, the hivemind is strong in this thread

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

If it was the only tool it was both the best and the worst by definition.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

And what is the best tool for the job? The best tool for the job.

[–] ugo@feddit.it 4 points 21 hours ago

Exactly! There is no best tool. There is, however, a worst tool. It’s bazel.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

You mean js

/s

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] somegeek@programming.dev 3 points 9 hours ago

Yes use a lisp family language for everything and you will be enlightened

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Tbf racket has a stupid easy gui library.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, that's the second option.

[–] staircase@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sometimes I just want to use a particular tool, and care less what I'm making with it.

I rarely get this pleasure at work.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I seem to remember hearing this story: Back in the 2000s, Google did all their back-end stuff in C++ to make sure it was performant, and when they acquired Youtube they found it was made in Python, slow to run, fast to develop.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Did they change it after the acquisition? Or is python why it's still so freaking slow?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Lol @ YouTube being slow

Look at the amount of data that goes through their servers every millisecond. It's ridiculous. All things considered, YouTube is lightning fast.

Maybe the UI isn't as snappy as it could be, but the blame there lies solely on throwing more and more javascript at it to add "features" that end users don't really want.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Aaand artificially slowing down video loading by several seconds, last but not least.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 hours ago

is it tho? Or youtub is just profitable enough to neglect the compute overhead cost?

[–] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Things is you don't crunch numbers in Python code, you do that in libraries called from Python.

It's a few statements of orchestration and any heavy lifting is encapsulated compiled code.

You don't do tight loops on Python, or if you do you're using it wrong.

Right... And the best tool for every job is of course Rust.