Whatever your place defines as a standard. I’ve seen ugly code in C, JavaScript, Java, etc., that uses them all over the place because they’re not mandatory.

If you don’t have consistent indenting, your code looks like copy/paste from several sources; but if you do have consistent indenting, then the indenting of Python is a non-issue.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Per the Linux kernel coding style:

Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters. There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4 (or even 2!) characters deep, and that is akin to trying to define the value of PI to be 3.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 22 hours ago

First off, I’d suggest printing out a copy of the GNU coding standards, and NOT read it. Burn them, it’s a great symbolic gesture.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I’m rather partial to five myself but only when I’m feeling fancy.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yes

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

No one will ever know. That is my editor's job. XD

[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Indentation-driven control flow is one of the most cursed things ever invented, excluding things explicitly designed to inflict pain or death.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

White space sensitive languages are evil.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago

Haskell has the choice of both indentation based and brackets for things like do blocks, but most people use indentation based cause it's the norm and looks cleaner

[–] tyler@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

List comprehensions are much stranger than tabs vs spaces. There are very very very few languages that use them, and python’s is by far the worst out of the popular ones.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Skill issue. Once you learn them they are quite fun.

[–] unit327@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago

The concept of a list comprehenshion is sinple but syntax is awful, as if Yoda was writing a for loop. "x for x in y it is, hmm yes".

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Wasn't the python convention to use spaces (4 iirc)? Which is just plain wrong imho.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

most repos use 4 spaces

[–] aloofPenguin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the one thing I hate about python, because the spacing would differ between editors. I used vim to create the files on one system, and geany to edit them on another. Via uses 8 spaces in a tab (at least for me), while geany uses 4. This makes python mad, and drives me crazy.

Also, the rules for whitespace separation between things like loops, methods, and the rest of the code is annoying/ wierd (at least to me).

[–] who@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Via uses 8 spaces in a tab (at least for me), while geany uses 4.

You know that editors let you change their defaults, right?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and that indentation defaults in decent editors are usually language dependent. I'm not familiar with these editors, but... come on - if they use one default for all files, OP should use a better tool.

[–] aloofPenguin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but I don't normally program in python, so I never did. When I had to, I never thought of changing it (it wasn't for long anyways and was less of a thought out decision to do programming in vim)

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 points 1 day ago

Get a code formatter. Ruff is popular. So is black. Never think about it again.