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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I still think lots of the "trump voters" were actually "man voters".

Trump beat Hillary. A woman.

Trump lost to Biden. A man.

Trump beat Kamala. A woman.

I'm still of the belief that 2024, Biden beats Trump.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m still of the belief that 2024, Biden beats Trump.

I don't think so. In each case, there was significant dissatisfaction with the losing candidate prior to the election.

  • In 2016, it was because people saw the DNC as having subverted the democratic process to give the nomination to Clinton when Sanders might have won in a fair race.
  • In 2020, pick any of Trump's many faults, or the various impacts of the pandemic. He was terribly unpopular and would have lost to any mainstream candidate.
  • In 2024, it was mostly economic concerns, for which many blamed Biden. Harris positioned herself as a continuation of Biden when Biden was terribly unpopular.
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also Harris straight up refused to denounce a genocide. Not a popular stance for people who would usually be voting democrat.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So logically they voted for an even more aggressive perpetuator?

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago

However you feel about it is irrelevant, it’s one of the reasons she lost.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

No, many didn't vote or they protest voted.

[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago

I think you are severely overestimating the average U.S voter here. Religious cultists will not vote for women. The U.S is full of religious cultists.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't give them ideas, they will not hesitate to run Hunter Biden.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hunter vs Don Jr.

A matchup for the ages.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

God, if only Stephen Colbert would still be hosting the Late Show in 2028. Imagine the Don Jr impressions!

A lot of people wonder what George Carlin's material today would be about. I already know what it would be about. Just listen to his old material, and have AI insert the name Trump into his old material about the republicans draining the country for personal gain. See, the thing is, his material isn't timeless. It's just that we as a society haven't fixed our shit, or fixed the core problems that gave him material. If anything we've amplified the problems. So if Carlin was complaining back then, I assume his modern day stance would be to take a pistol to the mouth. I can't imagine complaining about problems you can't fix, for 30+ years, and keep living to watch it get progressively worse over time.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Hillary won the popular vote.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's more some Trump voters only voted for Trump because he was seen as anti-establishment. So Mamdani being seen as anti-establishment=those type of Trump voters voting for him.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

You’re not wrong. Sexism and racism are defining characteristics of this country’s voters.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I see how you would think that. But, I think you're delusional about 2024. If Biden didn't decide to run again and there was a real primary, the democrats would have had a real chance. The problem was that both Hillary and Kamala were basically appointed as the candidates by the party.

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Your comment is the real sexism. And socialist erasure, for that matter.

Run an actual leftist woman and watch her cruise to victory. I fucking dare you!