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Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support, I wonder what countries Europeans would/could flee to - and be welcomed by - if there were to be a war engulfing most of Europe?

Any thoughts?

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support

They don't do that at all. That's a deceitful right-wing talking point meant to create xenophobic reactions.

People from war torn nations move to non-war torn parts of their own county, or their direct neighbors. Only a tiny fraction go further, and only a fraction of those go all the way to Europe.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They don’t do that at all.

One side exaggerates things and the other downplays them. Neither are being honest. This is the information landscape we live in now and then we wonder why nobody believes the same set of facts.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Fair. I guess you could read my reply as "they don't flee to Europe at all", but I intended it as "they don't flee to Europe all that often".

I guess I could have been more clear there, but in my defense, I did elaborate.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

the other downplays them. Neither are being honest

"I shot my foot off"

"You have a tiny hangnail"

In reality, it's a medium sized hangnail.

"Both sides are dishonest"

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, pal. That's why there were so many of them in Europe. And I don't mean it in a bad way, it's pretty fucking normal to flee to a different country when there's war.

You people who need to debunk the right wing conspiracies so much that you create your own are a pretty wild breed.

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I think what they meant to say is that only a small fraction flees to Europe.

Take Syria for example. Of all the people displaced by the war, about half left the country (according to my quick Google research). By far the biggest portion of the ones leaving went to Turkey, a neighbouring country (about 4 million). Germany, the European country that took in by far the most Syrian refugees, took in something between half a million and a million, about the same amount as Lebanon, which is about 16 times smaller populationwise. Going down the list, before you get to other European countries, there are several other countries in Syria's neighbourhood — Jordan, Egypt, Iraq.

So I think it's fair to say that the majority of people try to stay in the vicinity of their country and only flee farther if they have to.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 19 hours ago

If they meant to say it, they should've said it, shouldn't they? Cause what you're saying and what they're saying are two very distinct things.