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[–] JelleWho@lemmy.world 34 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

It cost them 700, not you. You will gain from an Union

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 6 hours ago

It costs you 700 now and it costs them an unknown amount in the future. They just don't like it because they suspect it'll be quite a lot more than the 700 that you're paying to join. They're right too.

But union dues are annoying in the moment, because when it happens all you see is a reduction in your pay and initially no change in working conditions. That's why they have posters like that up, because even though intellectually people understand that being in a union will long-term result in better pay, in the short term it does effectively result in a temporary pay cut, which can be hard if you're already not really very well paid.

If you're joining an established union sometimes they will be smart and not charge members until they've renegotiated their salaries. But that only happens if you're joining a already formed union.

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

No it'll cost you, it comes out of your after tax wage. But it's an investment into you and your colleagues futures for better wages, stronger protections and benefits.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

In my country you can get union dues back as a tax deduction.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 3 minutes ago

What do you mean, "get them back"? Do you mean, "pay less tax by listing them as an expense"? Because you still have to pay for them, just not as much.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 1 points 31 minutes ago

what is this utopia?

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The protections are key here. I'd take a slightly lower wage for a healthy work environment any day, and I know that most people agree.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Also if the company refuses and hires scabs you can always put the money towards hiring union enforcers. Mind you we aren't quite there again but I don't we're too far off either, showing up to a scabs home at 2AM to have a nice talk or ambushing the boss on his way home. The glory days may be long gone but I hope to see new glory forged.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 6 hours ago

What really works is when unions start being powerful enough to dictate governmental policy. That's when things really improve. Of course the millionaires and billionaires will complain about interference, because it's only good when they do it.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

It comes out of their pocket because unions tend to negotiate for better pay

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

Not to mention that you’ll likely get pay rises worth more than what is paid in dues.