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[–] massacre@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I dunno, and this sanity check is coming from someone who's visited over a dozen times and loves it there... EU is not all fun and games, they are going to enforce chat control, apparently bowing to pressure on GDPR, has enforced facial recognition to enter, and right wing parties are growing in multiple countries including the big economic houses: Germany, France, UK. We're all over here looking at you folks to show us the way and if you blink in your resolve, you're going to end up where we are.

On a positive note, Drumpf's policies are hitting a wall of awareness, resistance and resolve. Our recent elections are giving some hope. His pedophile protecting tight grip is loosening it's hold as his desperately unpopular and catastrophic policies are forcing "masks off" upping of their rhetoric and abusive policies. This shows their real racist nazi agenda to everyone and it's only dropping their approval. We're worried they will cook the books next November, but the hope is we can reign in the insanity and undo the damage in the coming decade. It's going to take that long and we will need to start with our dear friends in Canada).

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The EU is now talking about doing what the US was already doing more than a decade ago when Snowden Revelations came out.

And don't get me started on things like the relative ratios of "death by police" and percentage of people in prision (to mention just the things related to the use of force in policing) between America and Europe.

The EU is at least a decade behind the US in creeping autoritarianism and a lot of that shit has been imported from the US (including the new style far right, which amongst other things was set-up with money from American billionaires which Steve Bannon brought to Europe years ago very openly to "create far right parties" and is ideologically fed by American money using social media which for example paid Cambridge Analitica to use Facebook to fuel Brexit).

In this turn of the Wheel of History, the equivalent of Nazism is spreading out from America.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I agree with you. I'm not saying the EU isn't doing better on substantially every level like education, social services, policing, well being, worker rights, etc. I'm saying the EU is at risk and it's it goes beyond just the US and global tech corpratism to authoritarian & oligaritarian influence of (soft and hard) compaigns to shift the EU far right. I am saying I hope the EU can hold on to what they have and push back further!

On a side note, the Nazi's borrowed a lot of their eugenics from the US and our deeply ingrained racism, so I'm not 100% sure this is new

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right-wing is code for not being part of the ruling party block.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'll continue to equate the right wing with far right extremism until they give me evidence to conclude otherwise. You can call that a code for "out of power" if that's your way of thinking, but it's not mine and I certainly didn't use it that way. I believe it's the reality of the ratcheting overton window for 50 years.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would agree that far right extremism qualifies as right wing. Trouble is, in Germany the AfD has identical positions as CDU/CSU as of decade or two ago, and both would be considered to be left wing in the US political context. A very left party like BSW was attempted to be smeared to be right wing.

Such labels assigned by the mainstream media have become meaningless, so I would encourage you to look at party programs and their voting patterns in parliaments to gauge where they really stand. I will avoid mentioning the general regression to pre-party times to avoid further confusion.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

OK, I'm going to challenge the statement that AfD would be considered left in the US. I'm from the US and I've seen their politics and they would defnitely be considered far right in the US sense (or our current "right" which is MAGA in power). I appreciate your point about media labels, though, so everyone should apply critical thinking to those labels for sure.