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I know places like Portugal and Spain are going through serious housing crunches right new and I know expats often exaggerate those problems. So where can an American flee oppression without just oppressing someone else?

For context: I'm a progressive lefty, thinking about long term relocation options cause the fash is getting pretty thick around here.

Edit: I know immigrants and expats (US or other) are not solely responsible overseas housing issues, but housing issues definitely exist across Portugal, Netherlands, etc. I don't want to increase that burden and would feel shitty if my housing offer outbid 300 local applicants.

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[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Greek American's take: from left to right it gets more progressive, pointing out that even progressive Americans are still conservative in Scandinavia.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

American who lives in Scandinavia now:

Yup. Bernie Sanders would be pretty center here imo

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Center-right, really.

Your run of the mill moderate conservative.

And I think most of western Europe would see him that way.

He only looks progressive by contrast with his dystopic environment.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Agree as a native.

Nothing to crazy about what he wants to achieve. The crazy part (and I respect him for dedicating his life to it) is to attempt it in the US of all places.
The amount of bat shit crazy that has been allowed to rear its ugly head since the last election is impossible to wrap my head around.
Super happy Mamdani won NYC. It shows that there are places in the US we can still relate to.

To answer OP: Personally I don't care where you are from if you integrate and contribute to society. I haven't met many Americans here, though...

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are dozens of us, dozens!

Super happy about Mamdani as well, especially as a NYer. The state of the US has been really rough for years but just especially ramping up recently. It's cool to see the opposition to it rise up, and I love supporting it as much as I can from afar.

Men jeg er så glad for, at jeg har flyttet til Danmark

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Du valgte feil Nordisk land, ellers gratulerer med nytt liv her i nord!
Du får komme en tur opp til oss hvor det er fjell, fjord, laks og folk som snakker forståelig, min venn.

God Jul!

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 5 points 4 days ago

"Progressive" is anyway a specific adjective that by itself doesn't mean much. Some Americans would call themselves more progressive than others because English is a (more) gender neutral language.