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what i find ironic is the 'capitalism sucks' crowd are almost always the ones who are benefiting from it. they just aren't benefiting as much as they think.
like all the tech workers with $500K in companyn stock and 150K salaries are the one sin my city who rant on about how capitailsm is bad and socialism/anarchy is good. or the trust fund babies. and they love to go on and on about how they should be making more and how unfair their life is, despite owning property, going on luxury vacations, and otherwise living very well.
i can't really take such people seriously. most low wage workers i meet don't have time to agonize about economic systems and which one is most ideal. they are more worried about keeping their job and how to deal with rent going up. they are more interested in going on about sports.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat
the irony being if you tell the people who whine that their house they bought has to go down in value to improve society, they lose their shit at you.
you can't get rich from capitalism and then demand it be less capitalistic and then demand your asset/wealth keep going up. that's now how reality works.
just like many businesses in my city whine about not getting enough business, but also are against more people living here or more growth/densitiy.... which would increase their business.
It's a bird!
It's a plane!
It's Strawman!
strawmen exist in the real world yes. it drives most people's argumentation, yes.
saying i have making a strawman arguement doesn't make the people who vote and talk this way go away. hypocritical people who say one thing, and then vote for the exact opposite policies in their communities, are very common. it's called grandstanding.
The real irony is that we don't even need to have houses go down in value. Condos? Sure. But single family homes? The land itself will be what has value. As an area densifies, the land a single family home occupies becomes more and more valuable. And there will always be some folks that will want to live in a SFH. As more and more infill happens, what SFHs do remain become very premium items. Imagine if somehow a single family home existed on a quarter acre lot in Manhattan. That home would sell for a fortune, even if the house itself were a mobile home on blocks.
Owners of SFHs have nothing to fear, in terms of loss of home value, from densification. Condo owners will not see as much appreciation if barriers to housing construction are removed, but SFH owners will continue to do quite well.
Perhaps you should discuss this with the people you are talking about. No one is this thread is demanding increases in asset values or anything like that.
people on lemmy are not normal people. they are ideological extremists for the most part.
Stop this bullshit generalization and people might give your point more consideration.
I built my house with my own hands, and if it would help one person for the value of my house to drop I would absolutely take that hit with a smile. fuck it. drop it to 0 so nobody ever tries to take it from me. Perfect.
my home's value is in the warmth and dryness, not some fucking dollar sign.
you're one person. the other 99% disagree with you.
but yeah... its' a bullshit generalization because you disagree and apparently your opinion is somehow more valid than everyone else around who is the opposite?
how is that working out for you?
If you generalize 'everyone' and someone says 'not me' your instinct is to call them out for generalizing?
Fuck off.