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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

God The Ramones are such a weak band. I've never understood people's fanaticism.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

That's how I feel about Michael Jackson. Except he wasn't a band. He was just 1 person who whispered like a shy little girl & flailed around onstage like a noodle and he kept grabbing his crotch and nobody asked him to grab his crotch. I've never understood people's fanaticism.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

That was my fault. I asked him to do it ONCE, and he just wouldn't quit after that!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Mystery solved. The rhinoplasty was the reason MJ couldn't stop grabbing his own crotch onstage.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

You ever start trimming something and one side is longer than the other so, you try to even it up, but you go a little too far, so you have cut the other side some more, and it's still not quite right, so you just keep cutting until nothing's left?

Let's just say Michael got that one on the house.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

All your personal issues with the man are yours and not in dispute. I think a big difference here is that MJ was a musical virtuoso, not just a singer and showman.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Was he virtuoso though? I feel like his best work was with Quincy Jones and Rod Temperton and without them he was just meh.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, look into the man. He composed a shitload of his music.

I personally don't even like the man's musical output. That said, I can recognize genius. The man was nothing short of a musical genius with very few I could even list next to him, perhaps with the exceptions of Stevie, Herbie, Prince, Eno, and other brilliant minds. The guy was out of his tree, but on a level of musicality most people can't even grasp.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Only two and one co-written on Off the Wall and three and one co-written on Thriller (although they are bangers). He did write most of Bad but anything outside of that is imo sub-par. I'm not denying he had a lot of talent but I think he's far from a virtuoso.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lol right. Give me a god damned break! You can't be serious, you're trolling, or genuinley know nothing of music.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Not trolling. I don't find his solo work without Quincy Jones that exceptional. Granted the Jones stuff is amazing but Michael wasn't able to replicate that on his own.

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

They were reactionary, trying to destroy the pompousness of 70s stadium and prog rock. Fast and simple the way rock and roll began.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I saw them live twice and they were great shows.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not debating that they bring the hype, people love them and yes they have their influential place in the history of rock.

I'm just saying in this era, I am lost as to why anybody would seek that music out. It had its place and it had its time, but that was like 50+ years ago.

I don't need to hear these boots are made for walkin', and I don't need to hear I wanna be sedated. They're anthems from an ancient time.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well, firstly, ‘These Boots are Made for Walkin'’ is a great song that sounds gorgeous compared to most of its contemporaries.

Secondly, there are pretty much no other bands that sound like Ramones. If you want that kind of fast and fun sound once in a while, there's no other option. Most other punk sounds like punk, but no punk other than Ramones sounds like them.

The only ones sounding similar to Ramones are those making deliberate effort to emulate their sound: Ramonetures, ‘Gabber Gabber Hey!’, Helen Love.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago