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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

There’s a huge demand from consumers for that.

Is that actually true, though?

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Because consumers have shown to prefer features over reliability:

French Door refrigerators are the most popular and most complex design.

Built in ice makers are popular but also complex and prone to failure due to physics.

They still sell very basic refrigerators and washer/dryers. But these don’t sell as well as more feature rich models.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

In my albeit anecdotal experience, these 'very basic' appliances suffer their own variant of faults. They take no modern design cues; they are more prone to reliability issues from bargain bin components; or they somehow cost only slightly less than their fancy feature rich counterparts.

Just because I don't want off-white equipment in my kitchen, I shouldn't have to buy an 'AI' oven. But the companies want to know when and what I'm cooking so when I go to the grocery in the middle of dinner prep, the AI price labels can adjust a bit higher because they know I need an ingredient right now for a meal I've already started making.

The variant of fault these normal appliances have aren't truly a fault. It's intentionally made to be less appealing, less reliable, and more expensive than it should be, so when we're looking at a white oven in the store for $800, we'll opt instead for the $1,000 Alexa powered stainless steel double range that's sitting right next to it.

Oh and if you're in a spot and need to finance your new appliance, sorry but our financing isn't available for the budget tier.

This comment kind of went off the rails, didn't it.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

My recent experience buying such is that it is very very hard to find basic but quality models. If you've had a water dispenser or ice maker once, you realize how awful they are. They take up massive amounts of fridge and freezer space and need expensive filters every 3 months and break as soon as the short warranty is over. But if you want double door and bottom freezer you pretty much have to buy the crap extras as well.

[–] Glaedr304@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I don't think complex design is the opposite of "just" it's more that the refrigerator is just a kitchen refrigerator that doesn't have weird proprietary temperature management system, and easily accessible replacement parts. It's not also a built in tablet for example

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

People would likely want products with new features and reliability.

But what we actually have on the market is products with new features that are mostly unreliable, and slightly cheaper products with less features that are similarly or more unreliable. Our products are clearly regressing in quality even if the existence of luxury features or designs are rising.

We are in a hostile relationship economically where almost every manufacturer is engaging in planned obsolescence (instead of using resources appropriately and making the products we want which also last).

Corporations want us to keep buying - they are hyper-focused on perpetuating that reality.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

But are there simple fridges that don't look like rental apt fridges? If there was a nice simple fridge with a big bottom freezer, in stainless, I bet it'd sell. Tho water dispensers and ice makers are damn convenient when they do work.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

"all the companies are dumb and refuse to earn money this simple way that I discovered in a showerthought"

Half of people on lemmy, facebook, reddit, twitter...

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Cars especially right now.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago

I'm just going to run my car until it no longer functions because I can't be doing with all of these crappy infotainment systems. My car has a non-functional radio and that's it, it's so old it has headlights that don't even blind people, and buttons to control the AC.