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Of any kind. Commuting, road biking, touring, mountain biking etc.

Been a cyclist of various types for 20 years now. Never seems to be non-controversial. Even among other cyclists... many hate other types of cyclists. And now there is a lot of specific e-bike hate/controversy.

I don't get it man. What do you think?

IME assholes are assholes regardless of being on a bike or not.

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Our roads are designed around cars, it's very often extremely frustrating and unsafe to have to share the road with bikes.

As an example, most of my commute is along a 2 lane road (1 lane each direction) that's winding, poorly lit, and has almost no shoulder. The speed limit is 35mph, which isn't a speed most cyclists can keep up for very long if they can reach it at all.

If there's traffic coming the opposite direction, it's often difficult or impossible to pass that cyclist safely so very often I've been stuck driving 10 under the speed limit around a cyclist I can't get around.

And again, it's a windy, poorly lit road, coming around a corner it would be very easy to hit a cyclist if I wasn't being careful (which I am, but many are not)

To add insult to injury in my particular case, there's actually a very nice bike path that runs directly parallel to the road, you can actually see it from the road for much of its length, and there's lots of places to get on and off of it, it's paved, it's actually almost as wide as the road itself.

There's also the issue that a lot of them don't always follow the rules of the road, you see a lot of the lane-splitting, running red lights, etc.

And there's good reasons for some of that behavior, I've heard them, I don't disagree with them, but the fact of the matter is that it makes them unpredictable, which is the last thing you want to be on the road.

Some also ride at night without proper lights and reflectors, which is really a problem with some idiots and shouldn't be generalized to bikes in general, but some people are going to do that

There's also Americans' love of big SUVs with big blindspots that makes bikes harder to see when they're around you in traffic.

As for ebikes, I have a love-hate relationship with them.

They can keep up with traffic a lot better, which helps my first point a lot.

They've also gotten a lot of people out on bikes who wouldn't have otherwise, which is great, but it also means that a lot of those people are going from not having ridden a bike since they were like 10 years old to feeling bold enough to be out in traffic because their bike can keep up but never really learned how to coexist with traffic on a bike, so we're doubling down on the unpredictability.

There's also the issue that out of traffic, in spaces where e bikes coexist with pedestrians and regular bikes on trails and such they're often zooming around at unsafe speeds.

And there's the usual patchwork of laws and regulations from one state to another, and a lot of shady imported brands selling bikes that don't meet those regulations. A lot of the e bikes on the road around me are overpowered and too fast for what the laws allow. And people also let their kids ride them which also isn't allowed.

I'm all for more people riding bikes in general , but the current situation with infrastructure, regulations, enforcement, and education here make it a really unsafe and frustrating to share the road with bikes.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not taking away any of your points, as they're mostly valid. That's almost entirely an infrastructure problem.

Heavy pro-oil, anti-bike propaganda has got people all uppity about improving bike-related infrastructure, even when there are few or no consequences for drivers.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Oh yeah, it's absolutely primarily an infrastructure issue. Some proper bike lanes would go a very long way.

There's a good smattering of the usual things- some people are dumb, some parents suck at parenting, etc. also at play, but that's not particularly unique to bikes.