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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Maybe not the right place to ask this, but why are American conservatives called conservatives? Where I live, in one of the EU countries, they would be considered extremists and the Democrats would be considered right wing.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The right and left are subjective terms. It really depends where you live and people will be more or less left/right.

As a Canadian I think the American conservatives are right religious nuts rather than just right extremist.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I think the American conservatives are right religious nuts rather than just right extremist.

Both are true.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Well that's not how that works.

Right wing means you believe that some people are naturally better than others.

Right-wing politics is the range of political ideologies that view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position in favour of conservatismnatural laweconomicsauthoritypropertyreligion, or tradition.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Hierarchy and inequality may be seen as natural results of traditional social differences[11][12] or competition in market economies.

[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least in Canada, most people I know think Liberal = anything left, Conservative = anything right. Maybe Americans are the same.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Basically. Our Overton window is fucked thanks to the Nazis in power. Both current and historical.

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my country(that is in the EU), there are people that would call anyone that says anything remotely positive about gay people woke communists trying to bring Nicolae Ceaușescu back from the dead

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It comes down to how American conservatives are extremely hostile to any kind of change whatsoever. In more extreme cases, like MAGA, QAnon, TeaParty, etc. that hostility towards change can lead to fear, which can lead to things like violence, terrorism, hate groups, etc. In short, they are called conservatives because they wish above all else to "conserve" the status quo (as they see it), that often being racism, sexism, slavery, xenophobia, hate groups, misogyny, white supremacy, Christian fascism, etc.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

American "conservatives" are anything but conservative.

They're hyper liberal. They're ripping up precedent left and right to institute how the think things "should be" as if it's 250 years ago. The billionaires want slavery. They want to eradicate all minorities and anybody who isn't white. They don't have the support to do all of this all at once, so they're starting with the people who will never support them first. Take away the support of the opposition and more and more unpopular actions can be taken to push things towards an oligarch controlled white christian nationalist organization.

They're spending money like crazy but only in ways that support them politically. They're trying to drive out anything that is remotely left ideologically until the middle is the left, and then they're next.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, I agree with you. They have driven the Overton window into another dimension.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been marathoning the old twilight zone episodes and it's amazing how much today's reality feels like we're living in one of those episodes.

Makes me wonder what Rod Serling would say today.

[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's such a great show. I have only seen a few episodes but I really enjoyed everything that I have seen and I'm slowly working my way into it. A friend of mine likes it and she turned me on to it a few months ago. And Serling actually seems like a legitimate bad ass.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

And denying climate change as it would require their thinking and doing to change. They hate that the most.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

That is exactly American brainwashing. You are correct.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 16 hours ago

That is not a question and you know it isn't

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You’re 100% right but we repealed the fairness doctrine in 1987, and ever since that, we’ve had politicized information cycles. Republicans in 1987 knew they’d have to lie to continue holding power; but they also have been enshitifying education too. In turn, a lot of people are just simply undereducated and comforted by their echo chambers. Have that happen for 40 years. Here we are.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The name is inherently nonsense. They aren’t “conserving” anything.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

They are regressives