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I have a feeling that the YouTube apocalypse will be much harder to watch (as in "more sad/unpleasant") than the Reddit apocalypse.
Yeah. Reddit is technologically very bland. It's "easy" to make a Reddit clone - the community is what makes it tick. But YouTube needs crazy levels of infrastructure to provide the full experience that it does. When Reddit collapses there's places to migrate to. But if YouTube collapses it's just a loss.
Not to mention you can fit more Reddit on a 1TB hard drive than YouTube, which makes it much easier to exfiltrate content.
But in either case there's massive value in the existing content that would be lost.
I'm sure some of those creators will try to take their content other places
On the other hand, maybe it will prop up PeerTube for once...
It won't. Look at Mastodon vs Bluesky and Threads. Mastodon already existed, already worked well, had more features and was federated. People still chose Bluesky, which is just Twitter 2.0 owned by the same corporate douchebags.
People CRAVE the system.
You say that like that's actually true.
The real reason that people go to bluesky over Mastodon has nothing to do with "The System™", it's because the Mastodon onboarding process is incomprehendibly awful. It's far worse than Lemmy, which itself is pretty terrible. The refusal to introduce an algorithm isn't pro-consumer it's just hostile to the non-terminally online. If a service isn't easy to use it won't be used. This isn't a revolutionary concept.
The main bluesky feed is also chronological, however, it has a desperate discover feed which is algorithmic (I think mastodon might have that as an option now?)
Waiting for my account to be approved on awoo.chat took a good week and a half, but I guess it's on me for trying to find an instance that caters to me (SFW-preferring furry)
Still waiting for a way to see other people's posts when now one follows them yet
Oh sure! People don't crave the system, Mastodon is just bad!
Hey, what's the non-corporate alternative to a service that took over the world with consumers then? I mean, if the system is not the problem and people just hate Mastodon in particular, I'm sure you'll have plenty of examples to share.
Yeah bluesky, news flash, most people don't care about corporations they just want a product that isn't a headache to use. The fact that you're responding to that knowledge with hostility rather than trying to address the problem is exactly the attitude Mastodon has, which is exactly why no one uses it
Idiot tech bros assuming that the rest of the population should have to wade through molasses, just because it's how they like it, and everyone else is just stupid for refusing to deal with it.
So you can't provide any examples? Got it.
People don't crave the system, they rather come to places that are advertised to them.
What they crave is:
etc.
Fediverse as a whole and Mastodon in particular is yet to answer to a lot of these challenges.
Every cycle of enshittification sends more people looking for alternatives. Remember the rebirth of "piracy" which streaming had all but killed for the most normal normies? People crave the system, but it's possible they'll slowly come around. Will it be fast enough. That's for us to find out. I gently encourage people to think about more than just tomorrow because that short term proprietary bullcrap isn't worth it in the long term. Definitely hear you though and it does feel that uphill sometimes.
Better start mirroring content now
It already happens
Antitrust Google. Fork YouTube as part of it. All existing content must be preserved. Remove YouTube's ability to sell licensed content (cable TV channels, music, on demand). YouTube can then be purchased or spun off as a "YOU Tube" again - content made by people for people. Brand saved, community focused. Monetization heavily regulated (governance or internal governance, but just make it a requirement.)
Or just let it burn and replace it with something else. Video's just super-expensive to host and provide, probably by design to keep others out of the market.