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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Starve or we'll shoot!" doesn't really have the ring they think it does.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's more:

Starve, or we'll tell you to beat each other!

It's why it's so stupid he's been fucking with the NG so much and deploying them for bullshit but not long enough for benefits to kick in.

He imagines jackbooted storm troopers cracking heads at a moments notice...

He's going to get people pissed off they're there, agreeing more with protestors than their commanders, and since they can't carry guns, they're going to do everything possible to de-escalate. And all of their training up till this program has been for actual de-escalation.

And at best taking a couple days to show up anywhere, most likely weeks.

There's no scenario this works out how trump wants.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 22 hours ago

It's not really optimism. Time is a very limiting factor. Numbers are another.

The United States has a tooth to tail ratio of 17%. Every combat unit has about 5 support units. So even though the US has a Military person per capita of about 5 to 1000, they really only have less than 1 combat unit per 1000 people.

They are outnumbered. They are out gunned. They are out maneuvered. It takes 5-6 hours to travel by plane from Canada to Florida. Moving thousands of troops is much longer.

They only have ONE weapon right now. Fear. Intimidation. Shows of force. That won't win in the long term.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Lots of things can happen, a few of which would actually be good things.

We need to look for those things early, to try and help our slim odds of improving things.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Also if ATC continues to implode there's a solid chance it could be up to a week without planes to move troops.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

I think ATCs would selectively work. Namely, to transport Allied ReUnion troops to where they need to go, while botching or denying service to the Neo Confederate Axis.

One side wants to pay federal workers and be boring, the other abuses them.