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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

PS5

500 non-gaming PC

Come on, dude. Firstly, you can get a non-gaming PC for under $200 easy. Hell, if you know where to look, you can get it for free.

500 ps5 650 ps5 pro 4 years in

Why not just... not upgrade the PS5? Save yourself $650. If you want to "balance" things, the PC guy can save $200 on their own upgrade.

Wait for the PS6, which will be out in '27/'28 and just enjoy the OG console that was released in '20 for the life of the platform.

Like, this is obviously not an apple to apple comparison. And that's spotting you a generous $800 PC build out of the gate. You're simply not building a PS5 quality rig in 2020 for $800.

720 for PlayStation online basic at 10 per month

Do I get to charge the PC owner the release price of every PSO title released for free? Because that's going to come out far higher than $720 over six years.

Are you playing any MMOs on that PC? Should we be charging you the base rate for those as well?

I'm not even a PS5 guy. I tapped out at 4 and game on my PC happily. But I'm not going to pretend console gamers are doing 3x my spend just because it's possible to do so.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Only a tiny minority of PC gamers pay monthly for anything.

You can't upgrade the PS5, and the sale price of your 5-year-old unit is like $100.

Free games aren't included in the 10 per month.

The cost of 18 per month to also have old games costs 1300 over 6 years.

The PC you can get for $200 will be awful to use or die within 3 years or both. It will be ridiculous to repair, so you will buy another 200 special hating the shit you bought both times.

Basically at the root a PC and a console are both good for about 6 years but the 700-1300 you pay for online is going to dwarf the buy up from acceptable PC to gaming PC+ hardware.

Cheap PC are the value option expensive pc are the quality option.

Consoles are kind of in between.

[–] autriyo@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Are we talking about a new 200$ pc?

Because if you buy used you can get a very decent non gaming pc for that money.

Maybe I got lucky, my current desktop was 350€ used with a pretty modern and fast CPU (5800x) and a somewhat outdated GPU (vega56).

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

350€ = 405 USD once you add in a mouse keyboard and monitor you are over 500 the figure I used. Decrease your figures further and it gets shittier fast.

[–] autriyo@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

You could always attach the pc to the TV, and if you don't have one you'd need one for the console anyways.

And my screens were like 17,50 each also used obvs. Fair point about the peripheries though...

And my pc would be overkill if you buy a console for gaming.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

We would have to include used game consoles too then, which I think is fair. If we are talking about just the desktop box and no peripherals though, I think we could make an equivalent xbox one or ps5 for close to the same price. Thats assuming the purchaser is tech savvy enough to navigate deals at places like newegg and microcenter.

[–] NecroParagon@midwest.social 1 points 11 hours ago

Free games aren't included in the 10 per month

Yes they are. 3 free games a month.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only a tiny minority of PC gamers pay monthly for anything.

That's simply not true.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say they didn't watch netflix or have internet.

PC gamers don't pay a monthly fee connected to their gaming.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 16 hours ago

So PC GamePass isn't a thing? If Valve offered a solid subscription offering, gamers would be all over it.