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i don't get people who celebrate or are happy that someone is dead when it comes from a place of hate.
Is it not cause to celebrate that the figurehead of one's source of ire is eliminated?
Like, let's pretend for a moment he isn't human, not because he's a disgusting vampire but because for this analogy he can't be.
So like, let's pretend for a moment that 10 years ago a robot, who's programming is visible to the whole public, was elected to office. That robot has one goal, increase the GDP. Nevermind that GDP is a bad metric, nevermind that no intelligent programmer would design such a machine this machine was not borne of intelligence, it was borne of the desire to raise the GDP.
Ok, so President Robot decides the very first thing we need to do to raise the GDP, is start deporting anyone that doesn't look like president Robot's programmed self image, something like this 🎃. If your smile isn't creepy enough, and you don't have enough ridges on your head, president robot says you're up next for deportation. Nevermind that you've been here your whole life, nevermind that your parent's came here 40 years ago. You don't have ridges and a creepy smile, get on the plane. Dont like it? Ok protest.
So, its been 8 years, president Robot's team of robots managed to change the metrics by which it is determined who becomes the next leader. This was of course, done quietly and accross many places. President Robot's team is thorough of course, and has managed to make the new minimum threshold to take office only around 45%, that's WAY less than what they needed before. So now, president Robot can be re-elected using only the robots made to keep president robot in power instead of needing real people who need to be convinced because they have "needs" and "families" and "rent to pay".
So when president robot suddenly, after years of the whole country saying "You're neglecting president Robot's maintenance" finally seizes up and can't pump oil through it's clogged cooling and lubrication system, I'm sure people will celebrate. NOT because the Robot is dead. NOT because they hate the robot. But because the Robot can't hurt them anymore.
This Hyperbole brought to you by the side of my bathtub
In 44BC, Roman senators killed Caesar in order to save the Republic. The outcome was that death destroyed the Republic. The chaos it caused led to the rise of Augustus, and the birth of the empire.
In 1584, William the Silent was assassinated by a Spanish Catholic Loyalist hoping that his death would put an end to the Dutch revolt against Spanish rule. It didnt. Instead it unified the Dutch, and accelerated the creation of the Dutch Republic.
In 1865, John Booth killed Lincoln, thinking his death would weaken the support for, and the resolve of the Union. It didnt. Support grew and the resolve strengthened and ensured that the Union was the only way forward for the US.
In 1948, A Hindu nationalist killed Gandhi to stop his influence and pro Muslim stance. Instead his death unified India across religious lines and discredited Hindu nationalism for decades afterwards.
In 1965, the Nation of Islam murdered Malcolm X, intending to silence him and stop his growing influence. Instead, he grew even more popular and his influence reached around the world and reshaped how racial justice was understood.
In 1968, racists looking to destroy the civil rights movement killed Martin Luther King. Instead, the support for civil rights went through the roof, and lead to the passing of the Fair Housing Act just days later, which solidified Kings legacy.
In 1977, Apartheid supporting Police officers murder Steve Biko. Their goal was to destroy the Black Consciousness Movement. Instead, his death drew international attention and anti apartheid support gained global reach and Biko became a symbol of resistance.
Theres loads of examples, all through out history of dumb cunts killing people to shut them up, kill their movement, or other wise influence history. And almost, if not every time, their desired outcomes have not come about. Killing Kirk, did the same thing. His influence and legacy only grew. Millions in donations, and over 100k requests to start charters for Turning Point USA.
If you want to kill the message, then kill the message. But killing the messenger is dumb as all fuck. You can debate a live person, shut them up with facts and speech. You cant do shit to martyr.
i get the hate for trump, hes putting tarriffs on my country, but i dont want to see him dead, even my worst enemies i don't want dead. I don't believe i have the right to end someone's life, the only time id get close to that is in self defense if its justified.
To many, something like that does look like self defense right about now. Unfortunately the situation appears quite dire from within, I'm afraid someone will do something and make things worse with martyrization. I can't say I won't celebrate when I hear the news that his McDonalds encrusted veins couldn't do the job anymore and he keeled over in the night (because I'm almost certain that's how its going to happen)
I mean, poor Hitler, right guys!?
i would of rather had hitler behind bars and tried at the nuremburg trials for the whole world to see and make an example of what you do when your a nazi