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As a non salaried worker paid by the hour:
"Go suck a goat, if I haven't clocked in you're not 'paying me,' and once I do clock in the computer automatically tracks it so you don't even have to write '7:05' in a notebook and make HR do math anymore."
Monitoring the times of salaried workers makes more sense, they are getting paid for the time they're late unlike me. Hourly workers who punch in/out are not being paid until they do so, and therefore (short of having to relieve a coworker or be on a line etc) I posit it matters much less if I am 5 minutes late, than it does if the middle micromanager above me making 2x my pay through his salary is late (not like he does anything when he is here anyway.)
Cool, you are the first guy I would fire because you have no concern for the folks that have to cover for you.
IDAF about someone showing up 10 minutes late if no one else gets impacted, but if a single parent has to get to daycare late to pick up their kid because someone else was late that’s something that will be considered if they are cutting jobs.
And who is it that decides whether someone needs to stay behind and be late for their other responsibilities just because someone else was late? If that someone else is late because they got run over by a car, do you say sorry, single parent, but you can't ever go home now because your relief is dead, otherwise the business will collapse?
You're the one, as the manager, who has no concern for the ones you make cover shifts. You just fake the concern to maintain your illusion that you're one of the good bosses that actually cares and to deflect the blame because if you really cared about those employees, you wouldn't put the burden of others being late on them.
That entirely depends on the nature of the company. Rarely are floor managers making this request because they feel like it.
Your example is irrelevant to the discussion as no one is getting into car accidents on a regular basis. This is about the jerks who are chronically late. Those people are just incompetent or jerks.
The example was intended to show that a business can recover from losing an employee entirely, I'm sure it can manage with one being late. Hell, if it's chronic, then it should be more predictable and even easier to handle.
And if you have a chronic issue with employees chronically being late (like this meme suggesting it's a generational thing), that's an even bigger sign that it might be time to adapt instead of blame. Stagger shifts so multiple people arriving late on the same day doesn't result in being that many people short at once. Offer flex shifts with more flexible start/end times and have people do less time critical tasks during this time like stocking shelves and tidying up. Schedule in more than minimum employee capacity, using workers who like being let off early. Schedule shifts to deliberately overlap so a timely handoff isn't dependent on everyone perfectly following the schedule (plus it gives time for support tasks like cashing out and tidying up).
And understood that the pressure can come from above and your hands might be tied, I just also understand that morality doesn't also get dictated from above. The person who has to cover for the late person is made to do so by the system set up by those with organizational power, not anything else.
If someone is a frequent problem why keep them around? Are employers obligated to keep poor performers?
If you have agreed to show up at a specific time then you should honor that obligation. That’s called being reliable.
I grew up with a mother who was chronically late to EVERYTHING. Dropped off at school...45 minutes late. Play sport?...45 minutes late to games and training. I somehow made my state basketball team...45 minutes late to everything until my coach started picking me up. Church...45 minutes late. Wherever we went, whatever the function, the family would all be ready and waiting, while mum was still getting out of bed.... Luckily, all my jobs during school years, were close enough I could run there in under an hour, so I didn't need depend on her. Even in the worst weather, I could not depend on her to help out. When I graduated and got my first professional job, the very first day she wanted to meet me for lunch. I waited 45 minutes of my 1 hour lunch break for her, then walked back to work. She rang an HOUR later and abused me over the phone for not being there waiting for her...! She was 45 minutes late to my wedding....! She was 45 minutes late for my Dad's funeral..! My mums a narcissist, and everything is unimportant to her, if she's not the center of it all. It's why I, and all my siblings now live 2000 kilometers away from her, and why she never got to know her grandkids. I'm sure anyone can be late occasionally, but if you do it every time, then sorry, but you're a selfish, disorganized cunt. Being late chronically is just pure disrespect for everyone around you. Edit: Sorry for the rant, but it was cathartic :)
Guess again, if I'm 10min late nobody is going to take the assembly off my desk. I can miss a whole day and it'll be right where I left it when I get back, and the entire warehouse clocks in and out at the same time every day, so there's nobody to relieve literally nobody is impacted except the sniveling middle managers that have to eek out every inch of control and power they can over their subjects just to feel good about their miserable lives, but their bruised egos will heal, fuck them. If that single parent is late because they had to drop their kid at daycare there'll be hell to pay because how dare you not be here even though literally everything is fine.
OH but those salaried middle managers and HR? They can roll in whenever they want.
Edit: OH and if you weren't too worried about middle managing to actually listen to your "employee" here you'd have read:
In my original comment, which makes your comment I'm replying to now completely unrelated as I had already covered that. We already agreed there.
That entirely depends on your warehouse. In my current one the union would be taking you out back and having words with you not me.
“OH but those salaried middle managers and HR? They can roll in whenever they want.”
That’s not true for anyone who manages shift workers. You need to be there when the employees are so you can you know manage the business. Im not even sure how you would conclude something so very very far for the truth.
Yeah? Well tell my egotistical middle managers and HR that they actually have to be here, because they missed the memo.
I'm not sure why you're so convinced your warehouse is the only warehouse, you clearly aren't at mine if you're questioning this reality.
I just don’t believe you.
Well too bad, you don't get to decide how other warehouses run especially when you don't even know what I build or even what industry it is, and your "belief" has no basis on actual reality.
Keep on middle managing, your ego needs it.
This is why turnover is so high.
A stunningly brilliant statement to make when you have no idea what retention rates were. This place gave full benefits to part time workers so the only “losses” were people being let go.
In other words, no one lasted long enough to leave on their own.
Do you work IRL? Would ypu abandon a fairly easy job that covered medical, dental, and vision in a market where the last two aren't required? Most people who weren't born wealthy would try to keep that job.
Believe it or not but some privately owned companies aren't looking to extract every penny they can from their workers. That specific family were devout people and they took pride in being able to provide a good job for their employees.
There are decent people who are perfectly happy to have all of their needs met and some of their wants. Not everyone who runs a business is looking to screw everyone out of every cent.