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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And who is it that decides whether someone needs to stay behind and be late for their other responsibilities just because someone else was late? If that someone else is late because they got run over by a car, do you say sorry, single parent, but you can't ever go home now because your relief is dead, otherwise the business will collapse?

You're the one, as the manager, who has no concern for the ones you make cover shifts. You just fake the concern to maintain your illusion that you're one of the good bosses that actually cares and to deflect the blame because if you really cared about those employees, you wouldn't put the burden of others being late on them.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That entirely depends on the nature of the company. Rarely are floor managers making this request because they feel like it.

Your example is irrelevant to the discussion as no one is getting into car accidents on a regular basis. This is about the jerks who are chronically late. Those people are just incompetent or jerks.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The example was intended to show that a business can recover from losing an employee entirely, I'm sure it can manage with one being late. Hell, if it's chronic, then it should be more predictable and even easier to handle.

And if you have a chronic issue with employees chronically being late (like this meme suggesting it's a generational thing), that's an even bigger sign that it might be time to adapt instead of blame. Stagger shifts so multiple people arriving late on the same day doesn't result in being that many people short at once. Offer flex shifts with more flexible start/end times and have people do less time critical tasks during this time like stocking shelves and tidying up. Schedule in more than minimum employee capacity, using workers who like being let off early. Schedule shifts to deliberately overlap so a timely handoff isn't dependent on everyone perfectly following the schedule (plus it gives time for support tasks like cashing out and tidying up).

And understood that the pressure can come from above and your hands might be tied, I just also understand that morality doesn't also get dictated from above. The person who has to cover for the late person is made to do so by the system set up by those with organizational power, not anything else.

If someone is a frequent problem why keep them around? Are employers obligated to keep poor performers?

If you have agreed to show up at a specific time then you should honor that obligation. That’s called being reliable.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I grew up with a mother who was chronically late to EVERYTHING. Dropped off at school...45 minutes late. Play sport?...45 minutes late to games and training. I somehow made my state basketball team...45 minutes late to everything until my coach started picking me up. Church...45 minutes late. Wherever we went, whatever the function, the family would all be ready and waiting, while mum was still getting out of bed.... Luckily, all my jobs during school years, were close enough I could run there in under an hour, so I didn't need depend on her. Even in the worst weather, I could not depend on her to help out. When I graduated and got my first professional job, the very first day she wanted to meet me for lunch. I waited 45 minutes of my 1 hour lunch break for her, then walked back to work. She rang an HOUR later and abused me over the phone for not being there waiting for her...! She was 45 minutes late to my wedding....! She was 45 minutes late for my Dad's funeral..! My mums a narcissist, and everything is unimportant to her, if she's not the center of it all. It's why I, and all my siblings now live 2000 kilometers away from her, and why she never got to know her grandkids. I'm sure anyone can be late occasionally, but if you do it every time, then sorry, but you're a selfish, disorganized cunt. Being late chronically is just pure disrespect for everyone around you. Edit: Sorry for the rant, but it was cathartic :)