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Like, why is it so widespread, what causes it, what solutions are available, etc. I don't really know how to ask this question so I hope I'm making sense

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[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Too many cars. No more third place.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Others have explained it (places where social interaction is the primary intent - not home and not work) but I'll add - old European cities (and most smaller towns) have some sort of public square. Many have lasted to this day and are still used. We can still build them, we but our chosen form of urbanization isn't that conducive to it so we don't. In North America in the 80 and into the 90s, malls we're 3rd place. Then they started aggressively going after loitering in malls since simply sitting in a mall doesn't produce economic activity. Many malls died and many are still dying. Those that survived achieved the - nobody goes there to chill anymore. Just to buy what they need, maybe eat, and then leave. Nobody plans to "meet at the mall" anymore.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The colloquial "third place" is, as I understand it, a (usually) public place OUTSIDE of Home or Work where people can meet, hangout, play, or just exist without the expectation of spending money or being productive in some way. Examples would be Parks, Libraries, old-timey Public Houses and Cafes, Playgrounds, Forests and Wilderness within walking distance, and more.

Car culture killed a lot of that by removing the ability to reasonably walk places outside major metro areas, as businesses relocated to cities, and because they straight up increased the fatality rate for walking substantially. Internet Culture also killed it since you can just talk to your buddies through the Demon Rectangle instead of meeting IRL.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

In sociology, the third place refers to the social surroundings that are separate from the two usual social environments of home and the workplace. Examples of third places include churches, cafes, bars, clubs, libraries, gyms, bookstores, hackerspaces, stoops, parks, theaters, among others

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, too many cars! Absolutely, makes sense....

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How much time do you willingly spend in public interacting with others?

There was a lot more of it happening before society required everyone to have personal transportation.

I'm an introvert so I am at home, work, or errands. I probably would talk to a lot more strangers if I had to use public transport and it wasn't so expensive to do anything fun in public.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

You would?

I use public transit daily and hardly ever interact with anyone. Maybe there is one interaction every 100 days? I don't frequently see two strangers interacting either, it's unheard of except maybe for retirees with effectively infinite time.