If I had the skills to get my hands on hard evidence that Musk tampered with the election, I would spend every waking second determining how to disseminate that information as widely, fool-proofly, and anonymously as possible. Packages to every single news outlet in the goddamn world.

Something tells me they do not, in fact, have evidence.

[+] 1984@lemmy.today -10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Pretty sure anonymous is an American psy-op / controlled opposition. I really cant imagine how a hacker group gets this kind of info or mainstream attention without that kind of support.

How come only anonymous gets on public tv and gets headlines in public media, and youtube videos with millions of views not being taken down or censored?

Why is it only anonymous getting this treatment?

They are part of the same old machinery, same as Trump and Musk and the media and the government... Its controlled opposition, for clicks, profits and making us feel there is someone out there in the public spotlight fighting for the peasants. There isnt.

Lols.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Think of "Anonymous" as just a mask, as in there is no real defined or persistent group between movements or 'attacks'. It's just a hat that gets passed/thrown around.

My experience tells me that the ones currently posing as this iteration are just a bunch of people with various levels of computer experience/skill who met on some darkweb channel and decided to pool their resources.

Whether or not there is proof is unknown, but it's a possibility, which could sow seeds of distrust/discontent into more of the population.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

And here I was only thinking of them as the kind of internet goblins that make up shit about pizza shop basements for fun

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It isn't a group or anything.

If anyone tells you that they're part of Anonymous they're outing themselves as a liar.

Especially, like this instance, where the message is being blasted all over social media. There's no evidence.

During Occupy Wall Street, the groups using Anonymous posted dumps of exploited sites or links to defaced web sites. That's why you heard about them.

This is bullshit "trust me bro" election conspiracy nonsense. It's a move from the exact same playbook of lies that was used after Trump lost.

This is just pure misinformation, there's zero information included in this. It only exists to create the appearance that there's something there.

This is just the Big Lie. The only difference is that the people pushing this narrative (who is left as an exercise for the reader) are now targeting the left with EXACTLY the same tactics.

Call this bs out when you see it. Take your information operations elsewhere, we don't want you here.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

our entire political system has been corrupted by money long ago. The only thing that makes sense is our presidential elections at the very least, are entirely fraudulent and rigged and that was one of half truths trump told. Not because he wanted to save democratic ideals but because he was throwing a tantrum that 2020 wasn't handed to him by the wall street military and prison industry profiteer insiders who call the shots. Trump has no problem with elections being rigged so long as he is the one benefiting.

What makes people naively believe that our electoral processes have not been corrupted in the same exact way as every other aspect of our political snd economic system?? Some delusional belief in American democratic exceptionalism?

In germany their highest court decided that electronic voting is unconstitutional because it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for laypeople/anyone who isnt a cybersecurity or IT expert.

Both parties are fascist albeit to differing degrees but both parties blatantly exhibit 13 of 14 traits of fascist regimes. The one trait they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections. But if our corporate owned leaders have allowed our society to disintegrate to fascism 93% of the way then its pretty illogical to believe they would stop short and work diligently to prevent the last 7% from reaching that point.

There is the Princeton study done within the lasy 2 decades that concluded the amount of influence one has on our political system and any legislated policy is directly proportional to the amount of wealth you have with regular working class people having a statistically near zero irrelevant amount of influence on any policy regardless of how popular or unpopular it may be. Since lewis f powell’s pro corporate supreme court decisions paved the way for citizens united and the erosion of our constitutional republic and its comprising democratic elements it has now become apparent for anyone paying attention that every aspect of our political system is for sale to the highest bidder and most likely the reality is that our presidential elections are rigged and have been since at least reagan. But even before then there was likely corruption involved since it is pretty much a historical fact that jfk won the presidency in no small part due to a backroom deal his father made with the mafia because of the connections he had made during his time establishing a bootleging empire during prohibition.

[–] bloodredrose@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Right? All they ever do is issue warnings.