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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 111 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Not intrinsically, but pretty commonly it is driven by bigotry over culture, religion or skin colour.

You know all the people up in arms over the wave of Ukrainian refugees? Oh wait, there's nothing of the sort? Well, there you go.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think it's very telling that it's not about "How do we allow them in legally" but it's about "Kick them out". If they were simply mad about illegal immigration then the natural discourse would be "Why do they not come over legally then?" The answer there is that of course it's insanely difficult to legally become a citizen of the US, and it can take years - even decades, but people have a family that's hungry now.

The discourse going to "Kick them out" shows that it's not about legal immigration at all, it's that they don't want a specific type of person around them. Otherwise we'd be having fairs and events to help people get their citizenship right now. After all they want to be here, the even want to pay taxes. If they just need to come in legally then the vast majority would, if our process allowed it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The answer there is that of course it’s insanely difficult to legally become a citizen of the US, and it can take years - even decades, but people have a family that’s hungry now.

Same for other places. Even Canada, which is apparently one of the best destinations, has a system that's poorly designed to the point of maliciousness.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It took my dad about 15-20 years in the US to get citizenship. It took my friend about 10 in Canada. Both are fucking terrible, but the US is a special kind of processed garbage

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Exactly. In and of itself, criticizing illegal immigration is simply criticizing an illegal act. However, it is usually steeped in racist logic and arguments. Talking about how people who come over our southern border are genetically inferior and prone to crime is racist as fuck. Adding roadblocks to immigration for brown people while simultaneously streamlining immigration of white South Africans (the guys who did Apartheid) is racist as fuck.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Where, and to what degree relative to Arabs or Latin Americans or whatever?

Like sure, you can find someone who said it was bad somewhere, but even in places like Romania or Poland they were never the main target of the xenophobic rage.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I live in SC. There was a big uproar about it and an even bigger one that the news shrugged its shoulders and went "eh, not really news worth."

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, that's the where. How big, relative to dissatisfaction over Latin Americans?

I'm pretty sure it's negligible by comparison. Because I know America.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Thats because the media didnt try to cause mass hysteria. Man you guys are so easily manipulated by media i think we should force psychological classes so you can see the warning signs of manipulation

Edit: you are the easiest people to manipulate and its already obvious.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Uh-huh. Straight to forced re-education programs and shadowy conspiracies.

When the fascists send people to argue for them, they're not sending their best.

Edit: Cool cowardly edit.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, TBF it's not an ideology that really pulls the best and brightest,

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Hopefully you’ll be in that class.