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I'm going to challenge you all, right here, right now. Put down the thought of what's right, what's wrong, how people should be reacting, ect. I'm an apathetic bastard and I really could care less either way.

What I have noticed though is there's a LOT of divide on this one, more than usual. Lemmy's pretty homogenous but go outside to Facebook, Instagram, reddit, any of the mainstream places, hell, even talking about it with friends or family, you get some really differing views and people seem ready to discard longtime relationships over it. Hell, I've seen it happen 3 times now so far.

°So what do you think, take off the politics hat for a second and put on the sociology hat. Take a breath, and examine your surroundings.

°How does what's going on make you feel, sad? Angry? Scared, tired or relieved?

°What do you think this says about which direction our society is going, have you got any predictions? Any old timers who have been through near societal collapses before want to throw in their perspective?

I'm genuinely interested in what you all think

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[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I won't miss Charlie Kirk. I'm sad for the people who were there and witnessed a horrific public murder. I am exhausted and numbed to all this gun violence and I'm especially tired of the right wing bullshit about gun rights. I'm confounded and baffled by the bizarre depths of alt-right internet subculture. I'm profoundly disappointed and disillusioned by the state of the United States, but neither am I the least bit shocked. I fear for the deeper divide the next generation faces as fanatical parents drive their children to extremism as others quietly steer theirs towards acceptance, empathy, and inclusiveness.

Charlie Kirk was objectively a garbage human being. I will not mourn him. But nobody should be fucking murdered. The violence and hatred coming from the right is fucking insane and intolerable. We're being led by sycophants, liars, sociopaths, and incompetent grifters hell bent on upending the entire structure of our ordered existence so they can rebuild it into something nightmarish and dystopian. We're in the endgame now. The Democrats do not have a time machine.

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's something my dad texted me the other day when I was talking to him about this

"We’ll be ok. I lived through Vietnam, Kent state, watergate, Kennedy assassination, etc. everything works out eventually" (then some choice words about trump)

That being said, it does feel like the end times, but his statement makes me think, how many others have felt this uncertainty throughout history before us, and how many times did it work out versus get worse? Something to think about I guess

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Normally, I'd agree with your dad. And I mostly still do. I'm not quite sure how this stacks up against previous crises. I have no doubt, for example, the Cuban Missile Crisis was pants-shittingly terrifying. But we don't have firm hands on the rudders here to steer us back from the brink of madness.

We've discarded the Constitution. We're disregarding rule of law. We'll survive, in all likelihood, persevere, in some fashion. What I'm afraid of is what we lose - who we lose - in this nightmare timeline.

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

I suppose I can see that, I certainly prefer fear of death from two blocks away rather than fear of death raining down from above. My small comfort is that, yes, we will persevere, I have the same thoughts about climate change. I mean fuck it, our species could wipe our habitability on the earth, but if scientists can develop plastic eating worms I bet some small semblance of life can survive in the aftermath.

Its all about perspective