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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A conspiracy like that would require a level of organization that isn't present.

It's willful ignorance and cultic tribalism gone real bad.

They really believe there is a vaccine conspiracy that causes autism and is being used for mind control or whatever.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What conspiracy? Do you know how many people are employed by cancer? If they cured it today, so many people would be out of work. It's not some giant scheme, it's malicious application of the law. People believe that because their favourite politician tells them it is. Why are they telling them that? What possible benefit could exposing your populace to more medical harm bring? There are so many levels of control beyond the idiot puppets you see squaking on the TV and Social Media. People with the real power are pushing agendas. Don't fool yourself into thinking there is no one in control. That's exactly what they want you to believe. They sow chaos so they can reap the benefits.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There really is no one in control. Not really. There are people and groups with spheres of influence and power. I wish there was an evil illuminati out there in control of things, at least it would be organized.

Best I can figure, most everyone is faking it. I've spent time with CEOs, military officers, rich people, big time evangelists. They're mostly faking it, some even feel imposter syndrome like normal people do.

This isn't to say that they don't perpetrate great evil, but they're also not superhuman or super intelligent. Many of them are of average intelligence at best. They're just lucky or lack morals as we know them, reframing their moral system to excuse their actions. Everyone is the hero of their own story even when they are corrupt to the core. Hitler was a dog lover and vegetarian.

All this to say, there is no silver bullet for cancer. There is no magic carburator invented in the '70s that gets 100mpg. There is no over unity generator that will provide free power. Somebody would steal those secrets and sell them for millions.

I half expect that the insurance companies will run the numbers on end of life costs and maintenance costs of disability and still cover the standard schedule of vaccines. Deaths/crippling get expensive enough and they may even require vaccinations to keep insurance.

The wingnuts in question here likely believe the antivaxx shit, or see enough politcal advantage in parroting it that it has resulted in this. In some sense, the GOP has been too successful, now they are married to the lunatic fringe and have members from that fringe. They're stuck on this ride as well. Hope they choke on it.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I never said anyone was in control. I did say they reap the benefits of sowing chaos though.