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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 33 points 5 days ago (5 children)

When it's someone they don't like the discussion turns around "electability". But they always want us to get in line for a pro-establishment center-left corporate Democrat.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They keep trying to court voters who will never ever vote for them instead of the people who they claim to share values with.

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R stopped with that shit and surprise surprise they got Trump in. Tell me again how we could never have gotten Bernie in or how AOC is too radical...

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's almost like if you create a platform that completely disenfranchises your voting base to try and appeal to your opponent, people won't continue to support you when you show that you no longer protect their interests.

It's always, for decades now, attempt after attempt to appeal to the "moderates" and "reach across the aisle" to get R's to flip but never are they allowed to move the needle to the left otherwise they get ousted as being "too radical", in order to pull in the gigantic swatch of the population who do not participate because they see that no one actually gives a shit about them.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 days ago

It’s always, for decades now, attempt after attempt to appeal to the “moderates” and “reach across the aisle” to get R’s to flip but never are they allowed to move the needle to the left otherwise they get ousted as being “too radical”

100% entirely correct!

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[–] LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure one of these days conservatives will vote for the (D). We just have to keep trying to meet them in the middle for another thirty years! Let's try putting one of the Cheneys on the ballot next time.

Now whose rights are we gonna sacrifice first? I vote old people's.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Overton’s carrot.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dems became center left? When did that happen?

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

They're center-left when compared to a literal fascist dictator.

They're a right-wing party when compared to the rest of the world.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

They’re experts on electability. Countless counter-examples to draw on.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Center-right. They haven't had someone any amount on the left since Carter.