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I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

"Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You are born in the very very very best stretch the human race has ever known.

We have solutions for almost every problem which exists today.

Wars are at an historical low point.

Chances are good you've never been even experienced war first hand.

Housing is expensive, yes. But chances are you're reading this on a couch or bed in a home, heated (or cooled), with a working stove, light at night and a fridge with edibles in it. And lets not talk about your immediate almost unrestricted access to all of human knowledge.

That would be unbelievable, impossible even during 99.9% of human history. (Or somewhere near this figure)

You should stop doomscrolling and start reading the real human history.

All of human knowledge at your fingertips. And this is what you chose to distill from it.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think you're missing the point.

Dying of disease because there simply isn't a cure is a tragedy, but dying of disease because the cure is too expensive, not because of material and resource limitations but because some shithead just wants to be rich, when in reality we could produce enough for everyone - is a farce beyond comprehension.

We escaped the wolves and I sure am glad for it, but we have senselessly created new wolves just to throw people to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not making an appeal to nature, or using the noble savage fallacy, nor am I reactionary moron who thinks everyone went to Galas or that in the past I'd be admiring the decorative architecture rather than be the slave making it, I'm a huge simp for science and technology, but I also can see that the world is headed in a very dark direction compared to the 2010s.

As a minority in both legislation and in practice my rights and safety have been actively eroded since the 90s and things were quite literally just better back then for basically everyone.

I struggle to think what exactly would be worse for your average Westerner being born earlier in actual human scales of time, like e.g. the 1990s.

The boomers around me don't even understand that you don't just "get" a job for existing, and my parents can't imagine having a degree and worrying about making rent or skipping on heating or meals in a "first world country" like the UK, and they grew up in the fucking soviet union and not exactly during it's heyday.

Living in wartime is awful. Living while wishing for things to be fixed, or even for any kind of hope, even if it means death in war, isn't that much better.

[–] icylobster@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get what you are saying but everyone is ignoring the human condition. We feel things based on how they are around us in a relative sense.

It doesn't matter if it is statistically better. Modern times are getting worse for people. Health, privacy, freedom are all declining in America. That is what people see and feel. I'm tired of people acting like we have life horizons that can see centuries.

Chronic health is a real current issue and it absolutely destroys quality of life too.

So yeah, great, best time to be alive. But since I was a kid many things have gotten worse. From health (cost, accessibility) and education to privacy. Maybe we will be much farther ahead in 20 years, but the next 10 are looking grim.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wars are at an historical low point.

Factually incorrect statement.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even a cursory search shows the statement to be factual. Pick one

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you living under a rock?

You don't need to google this shit...

There is a large land war in Europe with combined casualties likeling going to hit 2 million within a year. north Korea entered the war on Russian side.

Israel is exterminating Arabs in Gaza.

There is a big war in sudan

RWANDA invaded DRC.

Europe is re arming. China has been re arming and rattling saber for Taiwan.

India and Pakistan always doing their thing. Yemen is in chronic proxy war.

There is a proxy war in burma

Thailand is testing Cambonia

You repeating propaganda from 15 years ago.

Get educated.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still an historical low point. Did you not check a single link I posted?

You don't need to google this shit...

NM, you admitted it.

ALL of that has been going on since WWII, and slowly dialing down. The Ukraine war is such a shock because it's so damned unusual.

I didn't say the world was at peace, but war and death is at an all-time low. Look at the casualties reported in the news today. We're stunned if 100 people get killed in a single attack. There were WWI and WWII battles you've never even heard of where 4,000 men were killed at once.

As to my education: I have 2 years of Advanced European History under my belt and 4 college credits to show for it. Not to pull the age card, but at 54 I've lived a fair bit of modern history. I'm guessing you weren't around when global thermonuclear war was hanging over our head as a day-to-day fact of life?

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

You posted a google link, so no, noone read it.

I posted a non-google link which factually disproved your claim.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ukraine war alone reserved the trend.

The only thing that comapres is korean war.

You larping old regime propaganda in earnest jfc

Quit being a boomer and look at the numbers.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is such an odd conversation. I provided many charts, many numbers to look at, and you're still arguing, what exactly?

BTW, Boomers were my parents, and I still have no idea what propaganda you're referring to. If anything, American propaganda has always been about how violent the world is and how we need more defense spending.

Can you name any propaganda where the government has espoused how peaceful the world is?!

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

You have not provided any charts or numbers. I provided a link to an actual study on the subject disproving your claim.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Blatantly incorrect.

New data shows record number of armed conflicts. In fact only the period of WWII saw more armed conflict than we are currently experiencing.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Your information is outdated by 5-10 years unfortunately.

Wars are at an historical low point.

Global conflict levels highest since end of Second World War.

We have solutions for almost every problem which exists today.

A very bold claim. We have lots of solutions, but not the will or resources to implement them. Climate change being the primary problem of which we have no real solution.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

reading real history is work though. just like working out and eating well.

doomscrolling is like the equivalent of sitting you your ass and eating junk food/delivery and satiating that lizard brain to the exclusion of their higher functions and potentials.

majority of people are going to choose the latter as much as they can.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What? Are you stupid? Realism with a tinge of optimism in this thread clearly designed to be a crying, woe-is-me circle-jerk? Get with it man! /s

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

It is not realism though, since it is based on factually incorrect statements.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Word. Just because America is on a downward slide everyone acting like these are the worst times ever. LOL. The people need some history classes.

When I was a kid, cancer was basically a death sentence. AIDS certainly was! Some of the tech I've experienced blows my mind. Wondering if my wife and I had finally caught COVID (we did 🤬), so I busted out the free laboratory kit I got in the mail. That was work for a hospital lab, and you were going to wait a few days. Sliced the side of my finger off, and they grew it back. I could go on forever.

In the movie Armageddon (1998), talking about the age of the space station being 10-years old, "Most of us don't drive cars that old." A 10-yo car was trash, common knowledge. My truck is a 2004 and my wife's car is a 2014. Both run great. And I could go on for ages as to how much safer vehicles are. None of the things we take for granted like ABS, air bags, crumple zones, none of that existed when I was a kid. Hell, some cars didn't have safety glass!

People will next tell me that global warming is a new threat that will kill us all. Friends and neighbors, we already survived an ice age.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Once you can't feed yourself, your children are dying, and the authorities are actively trying to kill you, how much worse of a times do you want!? People are being sent to concentration camps. The middle class is disappearing. Everyone not a billionaire is suffering.