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Very. I already dont see a bright future. People born today dont know anything but a broken world. Me being born 2003 atleast saw a slight bit of it
I'm sorry, but you are wildly naive. You've seen 22 years of this planet. You have no idea how good you and your potential offspring actually have it.
So how old must one be to not have you pull an ad-hominem instead of addressing the points being made?
Have you maybe considered that it's precisely the fact that you are older and have seen more of the world actually somewhat functioning that gives you this impression that on the whole things are fine, not to mention material advantages, and it is in fact - your credibility, that should be in question?
I'm old enough and have seen enough to know that I've got it better than a lot of people from the present and past. I can't know for certain what this person has undergone in their 22 years, but because they use Lemmy I can assume they are a relatively stable, middle class person. I may be wrong about that. This person is privileged enough to even be able to type said comment here. To claim they know what a "broken world" looks like is naive in my opinion.
I agree. But I also am old enough and have also seen enough to know I have it a lot worse than a lot of people from the present and past. I have known this at 27, at 22, and at 20. These are actually not contradictory statements.
This is a pretty odd assumption. A middle class person to me would be someone who doesn't struggle to pay rent/bills, and is saving up for a property or is already paying a mortgage without extreme sacrifices. They own property, or in (nowadays) rare circumstances a productive business and at least some of their income thus isn't generated from wage labour.
This is of course a very conservative definition, but let's go with that:
An extremely lavish internet connection of half a gigabit down with no caps or limits here in the UK costs about £30 or less a month and a phone or basic PC costs less than £100 even for both, easily.
The council tax alone, before things like electricity, water exceeds that. My rent is 11 times that and is extremely cheap compared to living in the city, which I can only do because I WFH - a rarity.
A median downpayment on a house costs £75,000 for a 30 years long mortgage, this is approximately twice the median, pre-tax income for full-time employees in the UK of £37,430.
Housing price rises, and even rent/bill/cost of living rises have also outpaced both wage growth and even in many cases inflation. Purchasing power is on the whole - down.
Focusing on the only things that have gotten enormously cheap very much contrary to the general trend - like access to social media, internet and electronics is like looking at a really nice tree when the forest is on fire.
Housing prices? That's your argument? That's your bleak outlook? Dude, up until relatively recently you couldn't have a baby without it dying or dying yourself. Common cold? Deceased. There are people alive today who are being murdered because their existence maddens someone and your argument is that your housing costs have gone up.
Get some perspective. Your life isn't that bad.
Can't afford a home? That means you're homeless. That's a crime now. To the prison work camp you go, chop chop.
Still can't in a lot of places. Not to mention, in America, assuming you both survive you're now $50k in medical debt for the privelege of reproducing.
People still die from pneumonia daily.
Two problems can exist at once.
My friends and family and coworkers are the ones being threatened with murder because their existence maddens someone. Get some perspective.
You know nothing about my life. Nor, apparently, the lives of your neighbors who suffer beside you. To be this ignorant is a great privelege. I hope for your sake you never need to learn about the reality of the world around you, because when it comes knocking, it will not come quietly.
That's what I'm saying. Dude, you are dense.
I've got a few decades on the other commenter. We are making gains in some areas: medicine, entertainment, and convenience. It is definitely true that our lives are much better in certain ways.
But then there's shit that is also going very wrong. Runaway inflation (particularly on housing, healthcare, education, and childcare), loss of community / loneliness epidemic, increasing wealth inequality, increasing political polarization / extremism, climate change, and societal stratification caused by technology. The last 2 in particular are "big ticket" hazards that I don't see reversing course and will only continue to get worse.
Age has nothing to do with how one is naive. Humanity will survive the climat crisis. That is sure...but at what cost...and that is what scares me
I can agree with you on all of that. In this instance my argument is that it's always been scary. We hide behind a false sense of security. It's always been this scary. It will always be this scary. We were born to die. Humankind is just like a human life. At one point, whether we like it or not, it will all end.
We are not born to die, just as a book does not start to finish
Unfortunately, there are people in situations where they struggle to get much out of life, and I don't think any large society without hierarchy and wealth divide has existed
Both of those things are true though. We are born to die, and a book does start with the intent of it finishing.
Maybe I meant "We are born THEN die."