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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I would assume most monarchies transitioned just as peaceful. What does that prove?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Every 4-8 years to all elected opponent?

[–] shani66@ani.social 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, term limits don't make a democracy and there have been elective monarchies.

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The Vatican is an elective absolute monarchy.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

When do Catholics vote for the Pope?

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

When the Conclave elects a new one.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 hours ago

No, but it's irrelevant to the question.

[–] randoogle@sh.itjust.works -3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

...You might want to study some more history there bub

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sure mate. Hereditary successions were usually smooth. In elective monarchies, there were more power struggles. Do you have anything to add other than insults?

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention that monarchies last way longer than democracies on average throughout history.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Is that so? I would assume democracies last a lot longer than 10 to 50 years? Considering that most of the world has democracies and they tend to be at least since WW2 that does not feel right.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Considering I don't know any democracy that laster longer than 200-300 years and there are a lot of monarchies that lasted for many hundreds or even thousands of years.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

And how are the material conditions for the average working-class person in those monarchies?

How much autonomy did they have over their lives compared to the 200 or 300 years they would have lived under a democracy?

How much suffering happened under monarchy compared to democracy?

Because if all of you are measuring is how long the ruling class can subjugate the working class, then sure I'm monarchy is better.

It doesn't mean I want to live under one, but you go ahead.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 1 points 36 minutes ago

And how are the material conditions for the average working-class person in those monarchies?

Looking at today's monarchies, the conditions are about the same as in today's democracies.

How much autonomy did they have over their lives compared to the 200 or 300 years they would have lived under a democracy?

The same?

How much suffering happened under monarchy compared to democracy?

The same average amount of suffering.

Because if all of you are measuring is how long the ruling class can subjugate the working class, then sure I’m monarchy is better.

It's obviously the most important parameter. If the govt system can't even sustain itself for long enough, then it's not even worth considering it.

It doesn’t mean I want to live under one

Thanks for sharing your opinion.