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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Really? Seems like we had a peaceful transition of power just this year.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 75 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

We peacefully transitioned into a technocracy with a wanna-be dictator idiot at the helm.

As an exercise for anyone reading this who doesn't already know: How did Hitler got into a position of power? Look that up, don't use AI, actually check up on that yourself.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 42 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Technically the Nazis lost that election, but the Conservatives who won turned around and handed power to Hitler, all to prevent the Left from gaining power.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 60 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Alien school: For todays class we will begin Earth history, please open your text book titled "Earth: All to Prevent the Left From Gaining Power." This book covers the vast majority of Earth history.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Unironically though, you can see the same pattern going all the way back to Rome.[Michal Parenti's The Assassination of Julius Caesar]

Something about the history of all hitherto existing society being the history of class struggles.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 17 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Just a dictionary thing, Technocracy != tech bro president:

Government by technical specialists.

A system of governance where people who are skilled or proficient govern in their respective areas of expertise. A type of meritocracy based on people's ability and knowledge in a given area.

When you call someone a technocrat, it means they're more interested in research and quality than political debate

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The US has purportedly been a technocracy for a few decades now. The second election of Trump will likely mark the end of the technocracy and the official start of something worse....kakistocracy, full bowl oligarchy, kleptocracy, pick whatever adjective you want.

The administrative state -- the exact thing Elon and his doge goons are targeting -- is the home of the technocrats.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 38 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I would assume most monarchies transitioned just as peaceful. What does that prove?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Every 4-8 years to all elected opponent?

[–] shani66@ani.social 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, term limits don't make a democracy and there have been elective monarchies.

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The Vatican is an elective absolute monarchy.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

When do Catholics vote for the Pope?

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

When the Conclave elects a new one.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 hours ago

No, but it's irrelevant to the question.

[–] randoogle@sh.itjust.works -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

...You might want to study some more history there bub

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure mate. Hereditary successions were usually smooth. In elective monarchies, there were more power struggles. Do you have anything to add other than insults?

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention that monarchies last way longer than democracies on average throughout history.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Is that so? I would assume democracies last a lot longer than 10 to 50 years? Considering that most of the world has democracies and they tend to be at least since WW2 that does not feel right.

[–] blade_barrier@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 minute ago

Considering I don't know any democracy that laster longer than 200-300 years and there are a lot of monarchies that lasted for many hundreds or even thousands of years.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago

The only party willing to accept defeat and not cry foul until their cult riots lost. It will never happen the other way around are you'd have be to a deeply vastly empty head to not know that.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Optical illusion. Plutocrats sharing power among themselves is not democracy, friend.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

That makes one in a row now.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

Degree of democracy has more to do with the size of the ruling coalition relative to the size of the pool of the interchangeables. When power is shared within a large ruling coalition, there tends to be a louder and more influential voice by the interchangeables, leading to more democracy and better living conditions for everyone, including those in the losing coalition. Autocracies on the ruling spectrum tend to have tiny ruling coalitions.

Source: my memory of reading The Dictator's Handbook by Bueno de Mesquita and Smith. Highly recommended reading.

If the ruling coalition of the US is much smaller than it appears to be, then yeah, it's at risk of losing its foothold as a democracy.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago

That's not the only quality of a democracy.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

How many eligible voters abstained?