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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A gunman opened fire Monday in a Target store parking lot in the Texas capital, killing at least three people, then stole two cars during a getaway that ended with police using a Taser to detain him on the other side of the city, authorities said.

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 57 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How many random (non-targeted) people were killed shopping in Austin in the last year, even if you include these 3 people?

How many people have died slipping in their shower in Austin in the last year? Or choking on food? I will bet you money both of those are much higher than the above answer. Have you stopped showering? Do you cut up all your food into bites so small you can't choke on them then eat them one at a time swallowing before taxing the next bite?

single incidents should not validate fears when you have a population of 2.5 million people, just because extremely rare things can and do happen doesn't mean they should change the way you live your life.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How many random (non-targeted) people were killed shopping in Austin in the last year, even if you include these 3 people?

Last year, there was a shooting at a HEB (Texas grocery chain) parking lot about a mile from my apartment. On Halloween a few years ago, somebody was shot in a drive-by right in front of my apartment, less than 100 feet away from my living room where I was eating dinner. Now this.

When these events keep happening right in your backyard, the statistics don't really do much to calm the nerves.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When it comes down to it, your perception of danger is going to color how you behave, and that's totally alright for you. The reality in Austin, though, is that it's very safe as far as large cities go. These handful of incidents you describe that happened over the course of four years are awful, but are also incredibly rare given how many people live here.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well if you narrow down the statistics to his neighborhood it seems it's pretty fucking common.

Your example is like claiming Chicago is incredibly safe so you shouldn't worry too much about crime since you live in the South Side.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Only one of the incidents they listed happened in their neighborhood, the other incidents happened miles away from them on opposite sides of town over a year apart.

No, this is not at all like "claiming Chicago is incredibly safe so you shouldn't worry about crime." Chicago's homicide rate is over 7 times higher than Austin's. And based in the incident they shared, they live in fucking West Campus adjacent to the University of Texas, not the South Side of Chicago.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you ever considered that it's not the outside that is the problem, but rather the fact that "outside" for you is Texas?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh please, Austin is #90 on the list for murder and non-negligent homicide, with a lower rate than New York, San Francisco, Boston, Denver, and Seattle.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

[–] LemmyThinkAboutThat@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shhhh… Anchorage, AK is #2?!? I gotta stop binge watching NatGeo. Thanks for the list, sorry I got off topic.

Carry on.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you misread the table, it’s sorted alphabetically by state by default.

🤦🏻‍♀️oh geeze! Thanks so much. Pardon my stupidity.

Leaving now.

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IIRC, a month after we moved out of the city, there was a shooting at a shopping area I frequented often.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

So it was fair game after the wizard protecting it departed the realm?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Humans suck at estimating risk when large or small numbers are involved. Your brain can't even comprehend 2.5 million people. You see a shooting on the news three times over multiple years and become afraid. That's completely irrational.

All you've done is proven that your feelings matter more than the reality.

When you let your feelings control you, and they're that far off from reality, you're going to make bad choices.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When you let your feelings control you, and they're that far off from reality, you're going to make bad choices.

Did the people killed at Target today make bad choices? Because if we're talking about reality, then the reality of the situation is that "bad choices" or "good choices" don't matter.

This is reality.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago

Question though, you mentioned you lived near that incident at 22nd and Pearl, but this incident happened over 5 miles north of there. There are 4 other Targets that are closer to that spot than the one where this incident happened. What makes you feel like this is happening in your immediate area?

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

What do their choices have to do with your choices?

Those two things are entirely independent.

Someone else won the lottery today, does that mean you should rush out and buy a ticket?

No, because what happened to them isn't likely to happen to you.

Just to add to the statistics, many thousands of Americans win more than a million dollars every year on the lottery.

You're still feeling rather than thinking. It's no skin off my nose if you choose to live a shitty life because you cant properly assess risk,. Good luck, but you're probably going to die of a heart attack. Maybe you should worry about that instead.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, this is all statistics. My wife forces me to lock all the windows every time we leave or go to sleep. Even though the window in my office would require a fucking ladder to crawl inside of the window from the outside.

I told her it's statistically more likely for somebody to pick up a rock from somebody's yard and come in through the front of the house, then it would be for somebody to come in with a ladder at the back to crawl into the 2nd floor window.

Doesn't matter, she still wants me to lock the windows.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would you leave them unlocked even?

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Laziness. I open and close them often to put up a fan.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why not just lock them when you close them lol, it takes like 2 seconds

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And now you sound like my wife.

"Why not" is always the question for when someone doesn't do something because of laziness.

Because its annoying and im lazy about it. I have to take the fan down and mess with our janky blinds. It's a second story window and we have no kids or pets.

Why do I need to lock it? For kids we're never going to have? Kids of my guests I'm never going to let into my locked office behind my monitors? For the possible robber that's going to break in via a second story window in the back of our home that needs a ladder to get to when there are several easier access points?

Sometimes I don't lock it. I often do. But she makes me double check my office window before sleep or leaving. That's time wasted on sheer paranoia. I'd rather take those odds over wasting 5 minutes several times a week.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hahaha, fair enough, it's just a good habit to be in, the pros generally outweigh the cons so just try to make it a habit is all

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I agree. But I just don't want to get out of bed and go upstairs to ensure the window is locked. I lock it 90% of the time...

Its usually just unlocked if I'm multitasking in the middle of the day

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And your wife is irrational, and the behavior is a waste of time.

What are you trying to prove with your comment?

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

single incidents should not validate fears