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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I thought mozilla was a non profit?

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Mozilla is a bizarre Matryoshka doll with a for profit company inside of the nonprofit. If anything, I believe this structure is responsible for Mozilla's problems

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

So the profit from the for-profit is passed up to the non-profit.

This is a really common organisational structure and not bizarre.

There's loads of worthy criticisms to make of mozilla but this is not one of them.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Non profits do have corporate leeches too. The executives at Mozilla have executive salaries. That is, hundreds of thousands, or millions.

They don't work out of the goodness of their hearts. And Mozilla has to find a way to earn the income to pay their bloated salaries.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago

Why would an organisation choose to over spend on executive salaries?

Obviously, it's because thats what it costs to get people with the right skills.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Non-profit isn't the same as not-for-profit

Take American Red Cross

They make bank on blood donations. Also, they take in way more than they put out.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This smells like BS.

Is mozilla non-profit, not-for-profit, or for-profit?

You dont really know do you.

"I dont like mozilla so ill just assume they must be profiteering assholes somehow"

"Its the vibe of the thing"

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I only use Firefox. I've only used Firefox since 2000.

They, by their own statements, are a 501( C )3, which is a non-profit, not a not-for-profit.

Sit down.

[–] haloduder@thelemmy.club 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Profit can be distorted based on how much employees are being paid.

They're a "non-profit," but their CEO makes millions of dollars per year. I'd say that's a profit.

Believing otherwise is just falling for rhetoric that exists to take advantage of our naivete so people richer than us can be even richer.

Many of you will disagree with this (because you're greedy consumerists), but their employees also typically don't need to be paid nearly as much as they are. Their employees are also working to maximize profit, albeit from a different, less-effective angle.

Money brings out the worst in people. I don't really value the input of people going to bat for the businessmen taking their money. Too often I see useful idiots proud to be ripped off and getting angry whenever someone points it out. It's really the norm at this point, which is sad.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Calling whatever you like "profit" cant really be rebutted, it's subjective semantics.

Yes CEOs are paid lots of money. Why would mozilla choose to over pay staff?

[–] piefood@feddit.online 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Are you really asking why would the people at the top of an organization choose to overpay themselves?