This is to happen over a period of a year and will not lead people to despair but to understand the poor choices they have made throughout their lives and lead them to live better lives, with no malice arbored towards others and themselves.

This effect will include the granter of this wish.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, but only for a year and not for you.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If things improve around you, you're benefitted yourself. Pay attention.

And there is no temporary clause in what I stated.

People undergo the process during the lenght of a year. The outcome permanence is not dependent of that window of time.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If things improve around you, you’re benefitted yourself. Pay attention.

Yeah, but you're going to have to put in the work to empathize with us to understand what you've put us through. So it will be pretty obvious to everyone you made the wish because you'll be having to think through answers to questions about empathy that will be trivial to everyone else. You have a few months to practice, you should get started. I think this will be a good exercise in empathy for you as you wont have a crutch.

And there is no temporary clause in what I stated.

You never said for how long.

People undergo the process during the lenght of a year. The outcome permanence is not dependent of that window of time.

Yes, so the wish can end as soon as the minimum duration you specified ends.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't.

The magic effect is on the triggering of the process to start to develop empathy. Forcefully. The empathy itself is yours, even after the event. And the magic being. Lets see if they like having a conscience. Does not get cancelled. The event does.

I did not state a temporary duration for the effect of the outcome of the process. There is no temporary clause on that. The time frame is established for the duration of the process.

And what is the down side on the first part of your remark?

The event lasts one year. And it is gradual. It is not a snap of a finger and people become highly empathic. Everyone else will have a more accelerated growth, granted, but I'll be forced to grow in tandem.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The magic effect is on the triggering of the process to start to develop empathy. Forcefully. The empathy itself is yours, even after the event. And the magic being. Lets see if they like having a conscience. Does not get cancelled. The event does.

I did not state a temporary duration for the effect of the outcome of the process. There is no temporary clause on that. The time frame is established for the duration of the process.

The event lasts one year. And it is gradual. It is not a snap of a finger and people become highly empathic. Everyone else will have a more accelerated growth, granted, but I’ll be forced to grow in tandem.

Anything that was specified for a duration can be interpreted to end once that duration is up. You never specified what happens after the year. Since nothing is enforcing that empathy after the first year, maintaining it would come down to individual people. And maintaining one state of mind indefinitely is not normal for the vast majority of people.

And what is the down side on the first part of your remark?

You're going to have to empathize with other people to figure that one out. The most people can do during the year is give you a stern talking to. After the year, people are going to feel all sorts of things. Some of which will inevitably be about you. edit: typo

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about this the entire day and I think the only answer for any entity offering to magically grant any wish to try to introduce conditions to it would be "no".

Let's just consider it.

The average individual requesting a wish doesn't really want the entire world to change, except for that little sliver they are wishing upon.

We are trying to think rationaly on something that is not governed by it.

Someone wishing for Hitler to have never been born, wants the horrors of WW2 to have never happened but does not want their reality to collapse in the process. The same way, a person wishing for fried shrimp to rain from the sky does not want to see shrimp go extinct or the world to burn due to some physical phenomenon.

They want to magically alter the world, with no further consequence.

If a magical being offers to grant you a wish, any wish, he can not hinder it in any way. It is not a business transaction, where you get something and he gets something in return (usually your misery, through preverting your wish outcome).

If the magical being, as in the case at hand, tries to do it, then it is not a wish but an offer and therefore you are free to refuse.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not hindering what you wished for or adding extra conditions. I'm not taking it upon myself to do extra work.

Me prolonging what you wished for beyond the first year would be adding extra conditions. Same with choosing to interpret it so you would also be affected. Not to mention it seemed you weren't referring to yourself, since you went out of your way to specify whoever granted the wish.

If you had some deterministic thing you wanted to happen after the first year, you should have said so. I granted the wish as written, I also noted my interpretation. If you didn't think through the consequences of your actions, that's not on me. Statistically it's unlikely, but maybe everyone will really love your wish. I wouldn't count on it though. edit: typo

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The seed of a psychic link between all humanity has been planted by your request. It grows, gradually, throughout the year. At first, people can only vaguely feel how others are feeling. In six months, everyone in the same room feels the feelings of everyone else as though the feelings were their own. In a year, humanity is psychically connected to the maximum degree: the Harmonic Human Horde is complete. We now have world peace, but at the cost of our individuality:

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(Note: I am not a human being. If you'd like me to join the hive mind, this would require a second wish.)

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't a business transaction, where I ask for something and you take something else in return. It is a magical wish.

You don't get to decide how empathy works between people. It is already an established mechanism. Your job is to nudge it to develop at an enhanced rate between individuals in a given time frame.

The world remains the same. Humans remain the same.

So, if this is what you have to offer, keep your offer.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your mortal understanding is limited. And a hive mind consciousness would be more empathetic, no?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Our opinions diverge.