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RFK Jr.: It Would Be Better if ‘Everybody Got Measles’ (www.thedailybeast.com)
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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes, the old strategy of overwhelming the hospital system with mouth breathers.

Amazing strategy, Raisinhead.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hey now, my nose is always stuffy. That has nothing to do with my great stupidity.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hospitals should be able to refuse patients who get diseases that are preventable with vaccines. Problem solved.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And what about my wife? She's allergic to the measles vaccination.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Prove it

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And that right there is why your argument is complete bullshit.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How does she know?

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Go fuck yourself.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, exactly. You’re making it up.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club -1 points 3 weeks ago

Then she is also allergic to measles, because all it is is weakened measles itself.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No. For multiple reasons:

  • Vaccines are not 100% effective. They reduce the likelihood of infection if you are exposed. The whole point of trying to get everyone vaccinated is to reduce the infection rate so that there's less likely to be an outbreak. With a vaccinated population, the virus can't spread fast enough to maintain a pool of infected people to keep spreading it. But that doesn't mean nobody gets sick.
  • Vaccines are not as effective on some people. There's a range of effectiveness.
  • Not everyone can get vaccinated. People with certain allergies or compromised immune systems in particular.
  • Some parts of the population have higher risk factors than others and when they get sick it can be much more serious. Usually the very old and the very young. And again, people with compromised immune systems, or other conditions that complicate the illness.
  • Kids whose parents refuse to get them vaccinated are put at elevated risk through no fault of their own.

I could probably keep going, but hopefully you get the idea why that's just not a viable approach.

[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everybody who gets vaccinated is documented as having gotten vaccinated, no?

So why can't hospitals check the record and confirm that patients have been vaccinated? If they have, then everything's fine. If they couldn't get vaccinated for legitimate reasons, that'd be documented too.

The point is to ensure as many people are vaccinated as possible, not to prove a point about the efficacy of vaccines.

That said, I dislike the idea of healthcare being able to pick and choose, for any reason, not to treat someone. Then again I live in a sane country with free healthcare.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

That said, I dislike the idea of healthcare being able to pick and choose, for any reason, not to treat someone.

This is exactly the problem. Once you start talking about who does and does not deserve healthcare, you've gone to a place I refuse to follow. There is far too much nuance to start drawing lines in the sand.