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Could someone explain what's happening to a non-american? I was under the impression that this Madmani gentleman had already won the mayoral race. Are they having another election for something else??
We have elections over who will be the candidate for each party called Primaries. Mamdani won the primary for the democratic party.
Cuomo is now saying that although he lost to Mamdani in the primary, he's going to run independent of parties.
This is pissing people off for a few reasons.
One of the biggest reasons though, we've had years where we were told to, "Vote Blue No Matter Who" because undeniably the republicans are worse. Now that an actual leftist won their primary though, Cuomo (a long time democrat) is now spoiling the vote by running independently.
This is following a billionare stating he'll give millions to anyone who has a shot of beating Mamdani.
It definitely appears Cuomo would rather have a republican win than to let a leftist win.
If he couldn't even get enough votes to win the democratic primary then how is he a threat as an independent, how many people are gonna vote for an independent
Doesn’t take too much for the spolier effect to screw the whole thing up!
Yeah, in a normal Dem/MAGA race, a spoiler could damage one side or another, but this is essentially a one man race, with three spoilers. It's unlikely that any single spoiler could garner enough votes to beat Zohran. The spoilers will most likely just take votes from each other more than Zohran.
Zohran crushed Cuomo by 10 points in the primary (despite Cuomo outspending him by a mile), how do they think Cuomo is going to close that gap, without losing ANY votes to Adams or Sliwa? Obviously, they think that their doom & gloom histrionics following Zohran's win will scared enough people away from Zohran, but it looks to me like they may have actually chased a lot of non-primary voters toward him for the general, rather than warned people off.
I'm not worried about this spoiler strategy. They are deploying it poorly, and it going to hurt them far more than it will help.
The MAGAs AND the Establishment Democrats have not figured out that the people are not listening to them, and an increasing number are forging their own political path. Dems are starting to become targets just as much as MAGAs. In 2010, the Tea Party made a big splash, and opened the door for MAGA. We are now at a point where the Progressives are poised to do the same thing, and change the direction of their party. The DNC had better go along, or they'll be left behind. Taking control of the DNC should be the Progressives' primary strategy right now, and we don't have to wait for an election to do it.
Can there be multiple independents? As in, those who got neither the dem or rep nominations, but still want to run in the general election, do they all end up on the general ballot, or will ll they have to face each other in a semi-primary first?
Yes, and they are not required to run in a primary because those are run by each party (being independent means you don't have a party to begin with)
There's no limit (AFAIK) to the number of candidates on the ballot, but there is a deadline to file and that deadline has passed. Cuomo had preemptively filed as an independent candidate in case he didn't win the primary (I think Mamdani did this too), but had not publicly stated whether he would use it until now.
In some places in the US (I've never lived in NY, so I'm not sure if it applies there) when you file as an independent candidate, you have to produce a petition with a certain number of signatures with your paperwork.
This generally limits the number of crazy uncles who can appear on the ballot.
A couple months ago I ran into a guy collecting signatures for Cuomo by Atlantic center (a major transit hub in Brooklyn). I was just like "why?? Why are you doing this??" But sadly I was in a hurry and didn't have time to engage with him very long
Mamdani won the primary election. In the US parties don't choose their candidates for elections (in b4 "but superdelegates!") like you see in other electoral systems where an internal party committee selects a candidate list. So this election was determining who was going to be the Democratic candidate for the actual election.
But New York has some weird fusion laws that allow people to run on multiple party lines so Cuomo, even though he lost the Democratic nomination, can still run in the general election.
It should be noted that parties can choose their candidates without an election if they really want to, but it's not a good idea if they want a chance to win. See the most recent presidential election for an example.
That’s true. Presidential elections are a little different given the primaries are technically only for convention delegates bound only for the first vote. There’s also instances where the party picks in the face of a candidate death before the primary or general, such as in Minnesota in 2002.
This was a big development in US politics that happened more or less due to fallout from the Vietnam War. Look at the map of the 1968 Democratic primaries and 1972 Democratic primaries. After the catastrophe that was 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago—driven by the drama around LBJ’s late departure, Hubert Humphrey being despicable, and the hope and ultimate assassination of RFK, and the lack of responsiveness to the anti-war movement, there was a serious push to move the process from one controlled almost entirely by party officials to a more democratic, if still party-official-directed process.
Parties don't choose candidates other than the presidential election, which they could change the rules, but in the aftermath of 2016 presidential election, the Democratic Party have changed the rules and have since forbidden superdelefates from voting the first round and haven't changed it since (as far as I know). If the first round fails to gain a 50%+1 majority, then superdelegates can participate. (I think republicans still have superdelegates tho) For non-presidential primaries, primaries are run by the states, governed by state laws, not a party's rules. Anyone can just register as either a Democrat or Republican and run.
The main powers of a political party is not vote tamering, votes themselves aren't actually being tampered with (for the most part), they just have unlimited funds to buy propaganda to make their status quo candidates have more support.
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In addition to what the others said here, it's worth knowing that despite all the manufactured contention around this race, Mamdani is heavily favored to win no matter who else enters the final race. The news and youtubers love to find the edge-case weirdos and hype up the drama around it being "BATTLE OF THE CENTURY" because our country's brains have collectively oozed out our ears.