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How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don't want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People on Facebook are telling me he isn't an immigrant, he's from outer space. I'm so confused as to what they think an immigrant is

[–] Fluke@feddit.uk 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Literally an illegal alien, and they refuse to see it.

[–] 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago

The most illegal alien. Smallville had an episode where Clark helped hide an undocumented migrant. His mom tried to chastise him and he had to remind her his own paperwork is shady as hell.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

illegal space alien.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

illegal alien

So no Englishman from New York?

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Does he like his toast done on one side..?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

No no no, you see he's white! /s

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Strange visitor from another planet" is one of the first things most people learn about him, right after him being neither a bird nor a plane.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and conservatives are losing their minds

"he can't be! He isn't brown!"

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently there is a black version of Superman in some comics and they were making a movie of him. Sadly, the movie has been cancelled.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair, the cancelled movie would have been with Will Smith. I'm ok being without a Will Smith Superman movie. Steel did get his own movie, but without any Superman IP in it.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They already made a Will Smith Superman movie. He was a drunk hobo version of Superman.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

oh yeah. It was ok.

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But that's nothing new. In Smallville there is one episode in which Clark literally said to his mother Martha that he is an illegal alien too.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s all? That’s why they’re upset? Sigh, it’s as if someone accidentally farts and then they rage.

Isn’t he kinda right though? If I remember well, Superman came from another planet.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are two plausible explanations:

  1. People think immigrant refers to a person who chose to move. Since Superman didn't arrive on Earth by choice, he's not an immigrant. This is, of course, incorrect.

  2. People think the term immigrant only refers to people who look "different" compared to what is common in the region. This is, of course, racist.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If they're okay with immigrants who didn't come by choice, then all the children who were brought to America illegally by their parents should be allowed to stay and everyone born in America should be allowed to stay citizens.

As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There's no Europe on Krypton.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There's no Europe on Krypton.

Now I want an alternate-universe Superman who happens to be black, and lands in racist-as-hell-ville in the rural USA.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Refugees are a type of immigrant though.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He also said that Superman is kind, and that bothered them too.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

He also renounced his US citizenship in Action Comics #900 like 15 years ago.