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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Not enough Americans will buy small euro cars. Do you seriously think they wouldn't just do that if they could justify the cost of switching off a f150 assembly line to make a small car they would. Ford and Chevy both had a ton of small cars throughout the years but the sales aren't there anymore.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You are wrong. American manufacturers are captured by the oil conglomerates to sell fuel. That's why you have giant behemoths barrelling down the highways. F150s have almost doubled in size over the last two decades.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Ok👍

We will put that on their headstone.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Ford stopped making cars because they can't compete with the current crop of cars coming from Japan/Korea and Europe regardless of how much money they throw at the problem. They have their niche with trucks and SUVs and are happy to stay there. China builds cars using massive government subsidies, slave labor, and local resources that aren't available to anyone else in the world which is why I think it's right to fight against them because it's impossible to compete against them just like a small local grocery store can't compete against Walmart.

[–] jaek@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

China builds cars using massive government subsidies, slave labor, and local resources that aren't available to anyone else in the world

Why are Japanese and Korean cars also better/cheaper than American cars then?

Slave labor

Citation needed

Massive government subsidies

The US doesn't massively subsidise auto-makers?

But yeah china bad

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

China builds cars using massive government subsidies

The federal government ended the the EV subsidy a few years ago.

slave labor

lmao. We know what slavery looks like, you can see it in the cotton fields outside Angola Prison, rows of enslaved people, and overseer on a horse, all behind barbed wire. In Xinjiang I saw farmers driving combine harvesters in roadside fields.

local resources that arent available

You're getting closer. Through 1 and 5 year plans, the CPC uses SoEs (and sometimes just asks private companies "nicely") to ensure the foundational inputs, steel, rubber, chips, college graduates, etc are all available to industry at the specific price point and volume that competing private firms need to produce say, 100m EVs or a million more apartments.

Any country can do a little central planning to make sure private industry has what it needs, but this only works if you're able to take action against companies that exploit the system.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago

Maybe they should advocate for better fuel regulations and densification ;)

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Must be a pricing issue.