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You are ofc aware that even if we successfully get rid of capitalism, we can't get rid of having to work, right?
But the way we work could change.
This is the winner for me.
I'm a manager, and I do my best to make things fulfilling, productive, physically and psychologically safe, and minimally stressful. I'm not the capitalist, so I don't have full control. But if those of us closer to the ground try to make the way we work more bearable, it can have an impact on the immediate surroundings.
But yeah, we do need to fix the overarching system, since we don't have full control in this one.
Right. We'd still need to build houses, but it could be a thing you do with your friends for fun, because building stuff is fun and if it wasnt, kids wouldnt play with legos or sand castles. Then you watch/help the new residents move in. Maybe compete in a local construction crew league if you still need hierarchy and ego motivation.
Hell you could still have specialists even, just instead of it being Steve who only knows how to build cookie cutter housing it's Irish who is obsessed with mid 200s Hispano-Roman architecture. Or maybe it's both of them working in harmony to create something truly horrifying.
Or sam who only knows curry, painting (but not playing) wh40k miniatures, and rococo architecture. Their husband and sister drag them out to their construction team (in a local league) because they need to get outside, and because they have most of a mechanical engineering degree and can paint and add ornamentation (gotta get those bonus pooints!) faster than anyone else in the county.
Yes those are space marines carved into the moulding. What about it? Would you rather have orks? The house nextdoor has orks, nobodys claimed that one yet. You could still switch.
As much as I am loathed to use the comparison I'm just imagining a house absolutely full of little easter eggs like a particularly autistic version of hidden Mickey. You stare at the bathroom tiles for too long and realize that it's a repeating pattern of the Alpha Legion hydra, there an Enclave symbol in the light fixture, and if you open the pantry at exactly 3 am you hear Karl Franz shouting "Summon the elector counts!".
Bwahahahha you guys are spectacular. Thank you for making my evening :D
And I'll take that ork house. Might need more dakka, though
what precisely do you think robots exist for?
They don't, not in the way you are implying
what are you on about? ever look at a modern factory? they're filled with robots that do enough work to replace 10 people.
obviously under capitalism this work just goes into making rich people richer, which is why we need to get rid of capitalism so these fancy robots we've built can actually let us live chill lives with minimal required human labour.
In order to replace all work you would need generic purpose robots, hence my line about what you are implying.
Even with all the automation we have now, people still work.
If we pushed to fully automate everything that possibly can be automated, there wouldn't be much work left. Jobs right now are just busywork.
The news drones on and on about labor shortages, but I've never seen a desperate employer. The trades say there's shortages, but all the trades are flooded with apprentices, and then there's pre-apprentices flooded in behind them. Office jobs have to sort through hundreds of applications for a single opening. Hell, even low wage jobs have huge labor pools ready to work, but the owners still find a way to nitpick. Things are horrifically upside down.
are you being intentionally obtuse? yes obviously we don't have androids that can do ALL the work for us, but we have robots that can do a hell of a lot of work for us, and especially the laborious and monotonous work.
To pass butter.