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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

Stand and fight, you cowards.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are we supposed to fight a nearly endless supply of morons along with overthrowing three branches of our government?

[–] promitheas@programming.dev -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Have you not been screaming about guns for as long as anyone alive can remember?

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

the morons were the ones also screaming about guns

[–] promitheas@programming.dev -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And that stops the non-morons from using the guns to end the morons rule how?

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I really don't want people to be in situations where they need guns. And liking to use a gun is a sign of a moron - why should nice people be like them?

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're condemning a lot of innocent people to die.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Cut the histrionics. Americans aren't being massacred. They are only asked to go to some minor inconvenience to uphold their country's democracy.

The distance between Chicago and Las Vegas is greater than between Berlin and the Russian front line in Ukraine. Are Germans supposed to feel pity for you poor darlings?

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I used to say this a lot, but the longer i live, the more i understand that "stand and fight" requires a lot of will power, especially when you have to rub shoulder with the jarring issue daily, the very issue that makes you want to leave, and the authority doesn't give a single fuck about it after countless report. In any case, it's the lost of faith toward the fellow countrymen, not the administration.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes. It's easier said than done. I often find myself thinking, I could do more to make my country better.

But I am just too irritated by the selfishness and privilege on display. Just relocating to a nicer country is an option that 99% do not have. You need to be young and well-educated, or be relatively wealthy. Otherwise, a rich country will simply not have you.

At the same time, those who can just pick up and leave are the same people who are most able to change things for the better. Americans are not risking their lives by speaking up. The rule of law is mostly being followed. Democratically elected representatives hold power.

Freedom and life can be taken from us, but never honor. -Otto Wels, 1933, in the final session of the elected german parliament.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"Stay in Germany and fight, your cowards"

-@General_Effort@lemmy.world said to Jewish Refugees in 1933

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

You're ignorant of history and that's a problem.

There were fewer than 500,000 jewish Germans in 1933. That's less than 1% of the population.

The millions who were murdered were mainly citizens of Poland and the Soviet Union. If the nations of Western Europe had prepared themselves better for war and fought with more tenacity, millions would have lived.

The absolute disaster that the Wehrmacht inflicted on the Soviet Union is largely the result of Stalin's defects. Dictators are bad; an obvious lesson. A less obvious lesson comes from the Generalplan Ost. The Nazis wanted to murder much of the population east of Germany; Poles, Czecks, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, and others. Many tens of millions of individual human beings were to be killed, mainly through hunger. Then the territory was to be settled by Germans, That's the whole Lebensraum thing.

Where should all these people have gone?

That's why the Ukrainians today don't have a choice. Putin wants to eradicate the ukrainian ethnicity. We know that. We don't know how many people he is willing to murder; to physically eradicate. Would you take the chance?


In 1939, immediately before WW2 and the holocaust, the MS St. Louis sailed with 900 jewish refugees from Nazi Germany to Cuba. But Cuba refused to take them in, as it had just hardened its laws. The ship sailed to Canada and the USA, but they, too, refused. Something, something, race.

Eventually, the UK, France, Belgium, and the Netherlands took pity on these people and gave them shelter. Obviously, many of those on the continent were murdered in the Holocaust.

Where do you think 65 million US Latinos will go? They live in the US and they will die in the US. One way or the other.