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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 141 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think people are cheering them on in general. Just cheering them on against Israel. Which, like…yeah. One of these countries has been committing outright genocide and murdering journalists and aid workers en mass for the last 2 years, and then provoked this latest attack by firing missiles at the other.

[–] bedouin@infosec.pub 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

No, 2 years. To go with the "en mass" part in particular.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How long has Iran been killing gays?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm guessing it really picked up after the 1979 islamic revolution, so 46 years.

The state of Israel was recognised by the US in 1948, so 77 years ago.

How does this plays out in your head now? Please explain, but I'm really curious how one thing related to the other.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t think people are cheering them on in general.

I wish that was true, but I've seen plenty of people cheer Iran on in general.

Campism is utter brainrot.

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah, I've seen a ton of flat-out support for Iran and Hamas on here, and it just hurts my head. Particularly when it comes from members of the LGBTQ communities.

Like... do they not realize what these people would do to them if they had the chance?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are we dumbing down the situation here? Life isn't about single issues.

Maybe we've seen different posts, but don't conflate the need to stop Israel's mad crusade with supporting Iran's regime.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

The OP is literally talking about cheering Iran. So it is definitely about single issues for a lot of people.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

Particularly when it comes from members of the LGBTQ communities

So, you, the (likely white and straight) saviour has to tell the gays what to do and who to support?

Israel, by shielding all its genocide in fake rainbow flags and under the guise of "western values", does SO MUCH damage to LGBT communities all over the middle East. When you're seeing "the self-proclaimed gay-friendly Jews" steal your land and attempt to murder your entire people, don't you think there might be reasons why the oppressed end up having negative feelings about gays and Jews? Obviously LGBT-phobia is bad, but it is literally the west who forced this.

In the particular case of Iran, in the mid-20th century, the country democratically elected Mosaddegh, a secular and progressive leader who believed in feminism and who was in a coalition with broad leftists. What did the west do? Economic blockade to Iran because it wanted to nationalise IRANIAN oil fields that belonged primarily to BP, and staged a coup against him.

It's literally the fault of the west that Iran didn't develop as a better-functioning progressive, secular democracy.

[–] Koarnine@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

You say that as if half of the people in their home country don't want to do the same shit?

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

Do you not realize what Israel would do to you if you went to Gaza and tried to protect Palestinians?

The brainrot here in these comments is the blatant disregard for genocide of Palestinians by Israel.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And Iran has been supplying drones for Russia so they can do the same in Ukraine.

They are both shit countries committing genocide directly or indirectly, they should fight each other to extinction.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel has also been supllying drones to Russia. They even demanded Ukraine to surrender to Russia.

This is not to challenge your statement. I find it important to understand that Israel is neither on the side of Ukraine, or on the side of NATO. Israel has no allies, it only has bitches doing its bidding.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Israel is not on the side of NATO

The things I have to read on this website, I swear

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations#Drones

In April 2009, Russia purchased its first package of drones from Israel (the Bird Eye-400, eight I-View Mk150 and two Searcher Mk.2 UAVs). The deal was worth $53 million.[231] In a second deal, at the end of 2009, Russia purchased an additional 36 drones from Israel, in a deal worth $100 million.[228]

In October 2010, in a third deal, Russia purchased an additional $400 million of drones from Israel Aerospace Industries. The Israeli drones are to be assembled in Russia.[232] The production of the Russian-Israeli drones began in 2012, and delivery to the Russian military is scheduled for 2014.[228]

In 2015, one of the drones was reportedly shot down by the Ukrainian military near the city of Donetsk, Ukraine.[233]

In September 2015, the Russian Army purchased another $300 million package of drones from Israel, its fourth purchase of Israeli drones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations#2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

On 24 February 2022, Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid spoke out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, stating "Russia's attack against Ukraine is a serious violation of international order,"...

Lapid's remarks were criticized by Opposition Leader Benjamin Netanyahu, who urged the Israeli government "to speak less about what they don't need to talk about" on Russia and accused the government of "too many unnecessary expressions and too many false predictions".

Israel declined to co-sponsor a UN Security Council resolution condemning the Russian invasion, leading to an expression of disappointment by the United States.[118] Israel later voted in favour of a UN General Assembly resolution condemning the invasion.[119] At the request of the United States, Israel also pushed the United Arab Emirates to back the resolution.[120]

An unnamed senior Ukrainian official accused Bennett of having "proposed that we surrender", claiming that Bennett urged Zelenskyy to "take the offer" of a peace deal from Putin. This report was subsequently denied by both the Israeli Prime Minister's office and a senior adviser to Zelenskyy.[125]

Following the Bucha massacre, Israeli Finance Minister Avigdor Lieberman condemned "war crimes" but declined to condemn Russia specifically, describing "mutual accusations" where "Russia blames Ukraine and Ukraine blames Russia", drawing a rebuke from the Ukrainian Ambassador to Israel.[130] However, Foreign Minister Lapid stated that "Russian forces committed war crimes".[131] Israel subsequently voted for a resolution to suspend Russia from the United Nations Human Rights Council.

in February 2025, Israel joined Russia in voting against a UN General Assembly resolution reaffirming Ukraine's territorial integrity.[189]

In February 2025, Israel lobbied the United States to allow Russia to maintain military bases in Syria, as a counterweight to Turkish influence there.[190]

In March 2025, Russia invited Israel to attend its 2025 Moscow Victory Day Parade, despite excluding most Western nations.[191]

Again, Israel has no allies as it extends no loyalty to anyone. It only has bitches doing its bidding.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Israel's only loyalty is to the United States of America, let's not forget that.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Did @Saleh@feddit.org’s comment bring that claim into context or is it not a fully proper response to your complaint?

(PS: Jewish people are cool, genocide is bad, not tricking you - srs & honest in spite of my username)

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -2 points 15 hours ago

A few isolated events of drone purchases aren't enough to make such a claim IMO. E.g.:

https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/eu-states-exported-weapons-to-russia

This data from all EU-27 official arms exports registers shows that between 2015 and 2020, at least 10 EU member states have exported a total of €346 million worth of arms to Russia.s. France, Germany, Italy, Austria, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Croatia, Finland, Slovakia and Spain – to different extents – have sold “military equipment” to Russia

So apparently Spain, France or Germany, full members of NATO, aren't Pro-NATO because they did arms deals with Russia at some point in the past 15 years. Not good analysis in my opinion.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Governments != Citizenry.

Both governments should fight each other to extinction, excluding citizens.

Unfortunately, both Israel and Iran have been targeting civilian centers, starting with Israel, which is depressing.