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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Here we go again,

The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We're all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren't peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend's protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.

YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361

Also, this:

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How did they work? ICE is still in my neighborhood snatching people up

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They're fucking brainwashed. They equate just protesting with some victory in their heads. No matter how small, every protest is some achievement

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the lib's mind, protesting is not a tool, it's the goal on itself. Just show up, wave a little flag and the bad guys will magically change their mind like it's a fucking movie.

It's all performative actions.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -2 points 20 hours ago

In the lib’s mind,

Are you libertarian?

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So because there isn't immediate visible change, they aren't effective?

The need for immediate gratification works to the favor of the authoritarian.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

The need for immediate gratification works to the favor of the authoritarian.

It's also the same urge which draws people to authoritarianism.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 19 hours ago

Yes. The entire point of direct action is to have an immediate and noticeable effect.

A protest is meant to disrupt the status quo in such a way that the establishment is forced to meet demands or else we continue to bring things to a standstill.

If your protest is not disruptive of the status quo, it is being ignored.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmmmm, I wonder why....

Most GOP lawmakers plan to skip Trump’s big parade

Could it be from booing in their town halls and a huge nationwide protest?

[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't entirely disapprove your position, but i feel like this is a really bad argument. First, because it's only a boycott of one parade, when people get abducted and deported. Second because they only 'plan' or 'say they'll' do it.

This does not feel like a victory at all, this feels like satisfying yourself on crumbs

Edit : making it gender neutral

[–] scintilla@piefed.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This administration already called in the national guard for a peaceful protest. Do you think that it will stop here and the they will not continue to commit more and more violence against peaceful protestors until we reach a breaking point and have to start defending ourselves?

Or are we supposed to allow ourselves to become martyrs and die before we fight back against those that would see us dead.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 1 day ago

Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts

This is misleading. Nonviolent resistance is obviously going to be more likely to succeed because armed conflict only happens when the government digs in its heels after the nonviolent resistance. What? Did you want Syrians to nonviolently resist Assad's Sarin gas?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

This administration wants this.

This administration wants people not to resist them. Failing that people resisting them verbally but in no practical manner will do just fine.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

That's not working. Just talking about it isn't an accomplishment. Fuck

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 23 hours ago

Especially with palintir spreading misinformation through reddit

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net -1 points 19 hours ago

You and I have different metrics for "success"