Quicky

Yeah, and that's fair enough. I hope it does get revisited.

Haha don't put it on me, I'm merely a consumer!

You've already suggested feddit.uk, why not use that for UK Voyager installs? Anything that isn't an instance that they can't actually use would be good.

Speculatively, but it would assume prior research, which many people simply won’t do. If a de-facto app (say Voyager on iOS) offers a default option that’s unavailable for a selection of its potential users, it’s another hurdle within onboarding that is already the biggest barrier to entry. If we want to grow as a platform (more users equals more content), putting up a default wall saying “your kind aren’t welcome” to entire countries seems obtuse.

Yes, those potential new UK users can get around it by picking another instance, but the question is how many will give up if they can’t get over the first hurdle.

The suggestion of changing the default instance by region, where those instances prohibit specific regions seems logical enough to me.

It’s not actually complying with UK law, it’s removing it from the equation so it doesn’t have to. I don’t begrudge the decision though, it will have been a difficult choice to make. That said, it’s a sledgehammer approach to self-censorship, as a response to an inability to comply.

Like I say, I don’t have an issue with Lemmy.zip being unavailable in the UK. But I do think it is potentially damaging for Fediverse uptake to promote a default instance that is unavailable to such a large number of users.

For comparison purposes, the UK easily has the second highest number of Reddit users by country. It is a remarkable decision to exclude that potential market by default.

Yep, a region check that sets an alternative default for countries that are blocked by the default server makes way more sense than the default being inaccessible for them.

I'm not sure that the answer to a government's regulation of the Internet should be an individual's blocking of access for an entire country. Seems like 2 sides of the same coin to me.

Yeah I don't blame you either. But I do think the default server should be more inclusive than less, particularly at the potential starting point of a user's introduction to the fediverse.

Realistically that is never going to happen. The biggest issue the fediverse has is onboarding. People just looking to try out a reddit alternative aren't going to bother emailing their fucking MP just because the default settings of an app won't let them sign up. They'll just give up and go elsewhere.

If we want to encourage growth, adding additional barriers isn't the way to do it.

Bit shit for UK users though since lemmy.zip is blocked for them. Not exactly going to encourage new users from here.

Not creepy. The only issue might be a clash of what you want, if it became a serious relationship, ie she may want to marry if she hasn't before, and you may be averse to it having been divorced. Or she may want children, which you may not if you've already got adult kids etc.

This is my sentiment too. I have 2 years left until all my kids are adults. I fucking cherish this bullshit.