As they should, stupid over complicated and absolutely failure ridden unnecessary design. kinda like this poorly worded statement
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Musk nearly bankrupted Tesla when he insisted that the door handles must be flush after stealing the company from its original founders.
I mean, "stealing" is a strong word. Elon bought them out, and they're both enjoying a net worth in the hundreds of million.
What's more disturbing about Elon's tenure as head of the company is how social media manipulation, insider trading, and blatant SEC violations can pump a company's valuation into the stratosphere.
Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard both continued to contribute advances in engineering that far exceeded the Tesla project. But they'll never have the kind of easy credit Elon secured through politics and media manipulation. So don't expect to see them included among the ranks of "billionaire" any time soon.
"Bought them out" is a weak word too though. He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.
And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before "salaries"
He placed loyal people on the board and had them vote to give him control of the company.
He could place loyalists on the board because he bought a controlling interest in the company.
And now he has been having them vote to give him absurd unseen before “salaries”
The latest compensation package has virtually unattainable sales targets. And the compensation is almost entirely in equity that assumes a monumental increase in stock valuation.
If he can manage it, I'd be tempted to say he earned it, except I know he'll only "hit" the target by lying and market manipulation that will collapse as soon as he hits his mark.
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It’s already fucked up that he legally gets to call himself a co-founder for simply being on the board.
I have long observed that moving parts, particularly involving motors, are destined to give me grief as a car ages. The difference is that little motorized interior luxuries aren't going to prevent people from pulling my unconscious body out of a burning wreck, while these door handles have for dozens of people
Is it really that hard to make one of those recessed handles with a mechanical linkage instead of an electric one?
Seems like the real issue is the electric door latch itself, not the style of handle.
Tesla whined about it citing all the crap they’d have to work around in their design in order to make a normal mechanical linkage. Funny how no other upper tier manufacturer has trouble with all the power windows and window power pre-offsetting for interference fits. They manage to have mechanical linkages.
Yeah I'm not shocked the major car company with the least amount of experience in mechanical engineering had that issue.
Give that to a team of 90's Honda engineers and they'd have it done by lunch with a price tag a 1/3rd of the Tesla mechanism.
Oh those Honda engineers would have laughed and laughed. "Aluminum chassis and plastic body support?!" I can hear them say through hysterics.
Yeah, the style at the time was "rust chassis and paint is body support" tbh
Aluminum chassis is the one thing I ain't gonna give Tesla any shit about.
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Why do need this in the first place? So a 2 ton SUV can be 0.0058% more aerodynamic?
These recessed handles usually have some sort of fallback. For me, I don't want rescuers to have a single second of uncertainty of how to open my car. They should be able to quickly yank the door open, not fumble for some recessed/hidden button. Every second counts.
The handles themselves freeze down and won't pop up to allow someone to actually open the door. Freezing rain and sleet and prevent even traditional style handles are known to freeze up and stop working.
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Next can we outlaw touchscreens? I'm guessing they are far more dangerous in the end.
i think often about that GM and Volvo paid Virginia Tech a lot of money to help them design a safe touchscreen infotainment center and after years of research the researchers basically reached the conclusion "there's no safe way to put a touchscreen in a car" and now we all have touchscreens in our cars
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We wouldn't even need to ban them outright. Just ban the usage for important things like windscreenwipers and climate control.
“From the ID 2all onwards, we will have physical buttons for the five most important functions – the volume, the heating on each side of the car, the fans and the hazard light – below the screen,”
Climate controls are one but sure, five most important functions. Honestly rip out the touch screen, implement buttons just as they had been previously then add the display; preferably with a decent HID as Mazda have done.
I'm still driving a mk6 golf and really can't imagine not having easy access to those features.
Can China ban retina burning headlights, rear facing floodlights and aftermarket exhausts now?
Good, it's such an incredibly stupid design. Literally no one was bothered by a slight handle for better UX.
Why not have those plastic handles on the sides of the doors that don't stick out? They could even have covers for them.
Must be nice having a functional government
Americans are going to mandate retractable handles in response
extra handles, 2 handles per door, bigger handles, bigger extra handles
And all of them retractable.
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I don't think China or the US would be called nice in this regard.
Well, the US is very nice to corporations which is why they’re often left to self regulate, are regulated by former industry insiders, or are barely regulated through fines and settlements
So yeah I suppose in this regard China is not being nice but being nice doesn’t effectively regulate corporations. This is in fact a good example of a functional government doing its job
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When even China has to ban your product due to safety concerns, you've probably made some seriously bad design choices somewhere along the line.
Musk makes a product so shitty even China is like, hold up.
Good.
As should the rest of the world.
I remember noting the bad handles and windows when sitting in one.
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