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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I mean, I've had German and British food and I can confidently say it doesn't seem like they love food, lol.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 101 points 2 days ago (4 children)

We absolutely love our bread in germany

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Very true, they're bread (and beer) connoisseurs!

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

German bread and beer is good. The only problem is that they have extremely narrow definitions of what makes good beer and bread. For example, the Reinheitsgebot law means that most German beer tastes the same. It's not that it tastes bad, but the number of varieties is lower as a result. Similarly, with bread, Germans like a very specific style of bread. Sometimes they put seeds on it. But you have to search to find naan, corn bread, challah, roti, milk bread, injera, etc.

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[–] groet@feddit.org 45 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Lots of Germans defending German cuisine, so as another German: you are absolutely right!

Germany has some great food and some Germans love making good food but German culture is absolutely not about food. The food culture we have is a development of the last ~40 years. Traditional German food is supposed to make you sated so you can go back to the fields and work! And the go to the army and fight! And then go to the ruins and rebuild!

Tasty and awesome food? Yes! A culture that tells you it loves food? No!

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You haven’t had the right german food then.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The Germans love their döner kebabs, possibly even more than the British love their chicken tikka masala

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

When I meet a German outside of Germany, it's not german-style beer or doner they're hurting for, it's a german bakery.

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[–] mcforest@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Have you tried Currywurst or Spätzle or Sauerbraten or any kind of German sausage or Mettbrötchen or German bread and still think we don't love food?

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have used Mettbrötchen with success to scare foreigners away from my German food. "Yes zis bread has ze raw meat on it. Salmonella? Das ist eine possibility. Schweinepest? Worth it."

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I have met people in Britain who genuinely seem to hate food. They have a plain cheese sandwich, the worst imaginable bread or eat Huel every day.

That doesn't necessarily reflect all Britons, but I do think they genuinely care about food less on average than other cultures.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate food. It's hard to explain but it's kinda like most food triggers my fight or flight response. It takes me a lot of willpower to eat through a regular meal. As a kid I was severely underweight because I was always avoiding food. When I moved out I took the easier approach and started eating only the stuff that was easier to eat (mostly fried and dried stuff, and some ultra processed stuff like chips and cookies). I went from one end of the BMI table to the other in ~5 years.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's not cultural, that actually sounds like an eating disorder.

[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Or a sensory processing disorder.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, artificial chocolate sprinkles on buttered white bread isn't peak cuisine?

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[–] tflyghtz@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Bro has never been to England

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Or a Presbyterian church service. I gotta give it to the Pentecostals, they might be a cult but at least they know how to party.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Nah, ask us about savouries and you might hear about pies and curries and chippies - the stuff you’ve heard a million times before. But ask a Brit about their favourite pudding or cake and you might want to book some time off for the reply.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

British food is unironically great, and the stereotype is based on experiences during WW2 rationing. It's made funnier that the people who say it comes from a country where people spray cheese from a can...

There's so many good pies, pastries, puddings, roast dinners, breakfasts, etc that are very good. British-Indian food is often excellent. Even a basic dish like macaroni cheese can be lovely if you make it right.

To be honest unless you include northern France, I'd argue nowhere in northern Europe has better food.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

British food is unironically great, and the stereotype is based on experiences during WW2 rationing

I think this overstates things. A substantial number of countries have their modern culinary culture defined in the post-war decades, though.

Japanese culinary identity came together after World War II, and many of the dishes and traditions defining their cuisine are recently invented or have evolved considerably during the post-war period: the popularization and evolution of ramen, katsu, Japanese curry, yakitori, etc. Even ancient traditions like sushi and Modern Japanese food draws a lot of influence from classic pre-war cuisine, but the food itself is very different from what was eaten before the war.

Even French cuisine underwent a revolution with nouvelle cuisine, heavily influenced by Japanese kaiseki traditions. Before the 20th century, French cuisine was about heavy sauces covering rich, slow-cooked foods (see for example the duck press and how that was used), and it took a few waves of new chefs pushing back against the orthodoxy to emphasize lighter, fresher ingredients. The most notable wave happened in the 1960's, when Paul Bocuse and others brought in small, lighter courses as the pinnacle of fine dining.

Korean, Italian (both northern and southern), and American culinary traditions changed pretty significantly in the second half of the 20th century, as well, through changes in food supply chains, political or economic changes, etc. And that's true of a lot of places.

Britain's inability to shake off an 80-year-old culinary reputation comes in large part from simply failing to keep up with other more food-centered cultures that continually reinvent themselves and build on that classic foundation. Some of the criticism is unfair, of course, but it's not enough to point at how things were 100 years ago as if that has bearing on what is experienced today.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I was in London for a couple of days, Ate at a hotel, a couple cafes, two pubs, a chip shop with one hell of a line. I must have missed something; flavors were low-key, under-seasoned, and under-spiced. The closest thing I got to flavor was breakfast; the sausage was decent, I think you fully understand sausage there. The beans and eggs were just kinda meh.

Then you have places like this catering to local tastes. https://www.oldelpaso.co.uk/products/extra-mild-super-tasty-fajita-kit

I think things are changing. People are starting to crave a little more spice. There's no lack of curry shops with plenty of spice, but they're not strictly British food.

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Brits: I like my food like I like my trousers. Beige and tasting of cotton.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 29 points 2 days ago

The alternative to loving food is to eat as a necessity and seek to optimise it. Various combinations of industrialisation, the Protestant work ethic/disdain of unproductive hedonism, neoliberal financialisation of food production/distribution (hence the flavourless “water bomb” tomatoes that last longer in the supply chain, for example) and possibly endemic low-level depression could do this, to the point where the norm is just to get the necessary calories and a dopamine hit from some sugar/salt/fat and anything else seems suboptimal.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (21 children)

For many cultures food is just nutrition, something that you have to do. This doesn't mean you can't appreciate good food or that your traditional recipes are bad, just that it's not the same as cultures where there is a lot of importance on both the food and the context of consuming it with others

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 17 points 2 days ago

Absolutely. And in the less extreme variants, there are cultures for which good food is the base of socialization - you mostly meet up for dinner or similar - and others where good food is the exception, happening for big occasions and parties but not an every day occurrence.

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in Norway. I can confirm this. Norwegian food

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[–] saimen@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago (21 children)

I would say this holds true for the USA considering all this fast "food" they eat. A culture that loves food doesn't do this.

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[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People say that about food, music/dancing, and stories because they are the least antagonistic thing they could bring up while boasting about their culture. Its the least likely to get attacked as well, its a non-controversial aspect they can sing the praises of and its something easily shared

If they bring up their cultural religion, values, politics, philosophy, or social dynamics, suddenly things can become an area of controversy and even ethical debate. Most people are too fragile or cowardly to investigate that stuff.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I once saw a post where the guy said he was from Minnesota and he thought ketchup was too spicy.

I wanted to burn the heretic.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

It’s definitely too strong a (sweet) flavor for me, but I just dislike adding sweet sauce to savory things. I also find barbecue and teriyaki sauce unpleasant for the same reason.

Chilies and spices are fine by me though, and tbf, I wouldn’t ever describe ketchup as spicy.

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[–] smoker@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I feel like a lot of people are taking the post too literally (or maybe I’m not). I once knew a girl who posted a photo of her dad watching football on a plane captioned “Persian dads really need their football lol” and it’s like. That’s just a universal dad thing. Lots of dads in every culture do that.

Some people just do not think about cultures outside their own. Like, at all.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The cultural equivalent of:

"So what do you like to do?"

"I like to have fun."

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Some cultures value food more than others. Pretty obvious there's a spectrum between "we eat for sustenance" and "holy shit taste this recipe I've been honing for decades". This is a shit post, not a shitpost.

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've moved to England 5 years ago. I can confirm a worrying amount of people don't care for food at all here.

Instead of a nice meal, when they want to enjoy a convivial moment, they burn shredded black leaves in boiling water, add milk to it to cover the terrible taste, and call that tea. And if you don't ruin it in the exact specific way that they designed, they get angry (but they don't understand why e.g. Italian and French people are so particular about their traditional recipes).

Send help.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In my culture we had nothing but roadkill and weeds to eat, so we got really good at making stuff palatable. << Most cultural food legends.

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[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)
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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago (11 children)

i mean. have you encountered soylent culture? white people get marketed to like eating sucks and all your nutrients should come in a tube

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Well, seeing the chemical waste people eat in the US, I do think they hate real food. Also in my culture (Dutch) food isn't as important as it is in Italy for example. We eat rather healthy, but the best quality food we produce we export because we love money more than food apparently. For the best quality food produced in the Netherlands you need to go to a supermarket in France. It's stupid.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

This is what I imagine elves are like.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IMO, English Canadians don't really have a food that they can call their own. Quebec has poutine, tourtieres, pea soup, and other things. English Canada eats many of those things, but also a lot of generic North American or European things: hamburgers, steaks, North-American style pizza, pasta, stew, etc.

Where I think Canada might be a bit different is that after decades of high levels of immigration, Canada has a lot of foods from other parts of the world. It's common to find South Indian, Pakistani, Punjabi, Turkish, Persian, Carribean, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Thai, Korean, Mexican, etc. restaurants in a city. Many of them cater to immigrants from those countries, so they're authentic tasting.

A lot of that is made at home too. While a home-made stir fry probably wouldn't taste authentically Chinese to someone from China, there are many meals from around the world that have been adapted for Canadian tastes. Very white people in Canada often cook adapted versions of Indian curries, Chinese stir fries, Mexican tacos, Thai curries, etc.

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