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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (12 children)

I mean, I've had German and British food and I can confidently say it doesn't seem like they love food, lol.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 98 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We absolutely love our bread in germany

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very true, they're bread (and beer) connoisseurs!

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

German bread and beer is good. The only problem is that they have extremely narrow definitions of what makes good beer and bread. For example, the Reinheitsgebot law means that most German beer tastes the same. It's not that it tastes bad, but the number of varieties is lower as a result. Similarly, with bread, Germans like a very specific style of bread. Sometimes they put seeds on it. But you have to search to find naan, corn bread, challah, roti, milk bread, injera, etc.

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[–] groet@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lots of Germans defending German cuisine, so as another German: you are absolutely right!

Germany has some great food and some Germans love making good food but German culture is absolutely not about food. The food culture we have is a development of the last ~40 years. Traditional German food is supposed to make you sated so you can go back to the fields and work! And the go to the army and fight! And then go to the ruins and rebuild!

Tasty and awesome food? Yes! A culture that tells you it loves food? No!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now I want to try this brand spanking new cuisine you speak of. It has become my life mission. 👀

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You haven’t had the right german food then.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Germans love their döner kebabs, possibly even more than the British love their chicken tikka masala

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

When I meet a German outside of Germany, it's not german-style beer or doner they're hurting for, it's a german bakery.

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[–] mcforest@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Have you tried Currywurst or Spätzle or Sauerbraten or any kind of German sausage or Mettbrötchen or German bread and still think we don't love food?

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have used Mettbrötchen with success to scare foreigners away from my German food. "Yes zis bread has ze raw meat on it. Salmonella? Das ist eine possibility. Schweinepest? Worth it."

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I have met people in Britain who genuinely seem to hate food. They have a plain cheese sandwich, the worst imaginable bread or eat Huel every day.

That doesn't necessarily reflect all Britons, but I do think they genuinely care about food less on average than other cultures.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate food. It's hard to explain but it's kinda like most food triggers my fight or flight response. It takes me a lot of willpower to eat through a regular meal. As a kid I was severely underweight because I was always avoiding food. When I moved out I took the easier approach and started eating only the stuff that was easier to eat (mostly fried and dried stuff, and some ultra processed stuff like chips and cookies). I went from one end of the BMI table to the other in ~5 years.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's not cultural, that actually sounds like an eating disorder.

[–] alternategait@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Or a sensory processing disorder.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What, artificial chocolate sprinkles on buttered white bread isn't peak cuisine?

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[–] tflyghtz@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Bro has never been to England

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or a Presbyterian church service. I gotta give it to the Pentecostals, they might be a cult but at least they know how to party.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Or they're dutch

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Nah, ask us about savouries and you might hear about pies and curries and chippies - the stuff you’ve heard a million times before. But ask a Brit about their favourite pudding or cake and you might want to book some time off for the reply.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

British food is unironically great, and the stereotype is based on experiences during WW2 rationing. It's made funnier that the people who say it comes from a country where people spray cheese from a can...

There's so many good pies, pastries, puddings, roast dinners, breakfasts, etc that are very good. British-Indian food is often excellent. Even a basic dish like macaroni cheese can be lovely if you make it right.

To be honest unless you include northern France, I'd argue nowhere in northern Europe has better food.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

British food is unironically great, and the stereotype is based on experiences during WW2 rationing

I think this overstates things. A substantial number of countries have their modern culinary culture defined in the post-war decades, though.

Japanese culinary identity came together after World War II, and many of the dishes and traditions defining their cuisine are recently invented or have evolved considerably during the post-war period: the popularization and evolution of ramen, katsu, Japanese curry, yakitori, etc. Even ancient traditions like sushi and Modern Japanese food draws a lot of influence from classic pre-war cuisine, but the food itself is very different from what was eaten before the war.

Even French cuisine underwent a revolution with nouvelle cuisine, heavily influenced by Japanese kaiseki traditions. Before the 20th century, French cuisine was about heavy sauces covering rich, slow-cooked foods (see for example the duck press and how that was used), and it took a few waves of new chefs pushing back against the orthodoxy to emphasize lighter, fresher ingredients. The most notable wave happened in the 1960's, when Paul Bocuse and others brought in small, lighter courses as the pinnacle of fine dining.

Korean, Italian (both northern and southern), and American culinary traditions changed pretty significantly in the second half of the 20th century, as well, through changes in food supply chains, political or economic changes, etc. And that's true of a lot of places.

Britain's inability to shake off an 80-year-old culinary reputation comes in large part from simply failing to keep up with other more food-centered cultures that continually reinvent themselves and build on that classic foundation. Some of the criticism is unfair, of course, but it's not enough to point at how things were 100 years ago as if that has bearing on what is experienced today.

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Brits: I like my food like I like my trousers. Beige and tasting of cotton.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 28 points 1 day ago

The alternative to loving food is to eat as a necessity and seek to optimise it. Various combinations of industrialisation, the Protestant work ethic/disdain of unproductive hedonism, neoliberal financialisation of food production/distribution (hence the flavourless “water bomb” tomatoes that last longer in the supply chain, for example) and possibly endemic low-level depression could do this, to the point where the norm is just to get the necessary calories and a dopamine hit from some sugar/salt/fat and anything else seems suboptimal.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 27 points 1 day ago (21 children)

I would say this holds true for the USA considering all this fast "food" they eat. A culture that loves food doesn't do this.

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

For many cultures food is just nutrition, something that you have to do. This doesn't mean you can't appreciate good food or that your traditional recipes are bad, just that it's not the same as cultures where there is a lot of importance on both the food and the context of consuming it with others

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 17 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. And in the less extreme variants, there are cultures for which good food is the base of socialization - you mostly meet up for dinner or similar - and others where good food is the exception, happening for big occasions and parties but not an every day occurrence.

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I live in Norway. I can confirm this. Norwegian food

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[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People say that about food, music/dancing, and stories because they are the least antagonistic thing they could bring up while boasting about their culture. Its the least likely to get attacked as well, its a non-controversial aspect they can sing the praises of and its something easily shared

If they bring up their cultural religion, values, politics, philosophy, or social dynamics, suddenly things can become an area of controversy and even ethical debate. Most people are too fragile or cowardly to investigate that stuff.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If they bring up their cultural religion, values, politics, philosophy, or social dynamics, suddenly things can become an area of controversy and even ethical debate

Italians will go three rounds in the ring over which neighborhood has the best ice cream shop. I wouldn't even say its uncontroversial. But these also tend to be attributes that vary heavily even at relatively short distances in older communities. A certain meal prepared a certain way or a dance/music style that originated in your neighborhood becomes a unique touchstone to your community.

I might note that this is something "Planned Communities" tend to lose out on. Everyone gets a Chilis. Everyone gets a radio station franchise that plays the same six songs on a loop. Everyone gets an AMC that shows the same ten movies as everywhere else. Everyone gets a Catholic Church and a Methodist Church book-ending the local elementary school.

Then you leave your provincial cookie-cutter suburb and visit London, a city where the dialect of the language changes by intersection. Or you do a road trip in Italy and find out how every tiny township has this one kind of dish they're all really proud of. Or you just drop into inner city Houston and get an earful of Chop'n'Screw music played by guys with spinners on the wheels of their lowered Cadalliacs. Then you find some weird old bookshop in Montrose that sells pagan bumper stickers.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 20 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I once saw a post where the guy said he was from Minnesota and he thought ketchup was too spicy.

I wanted to burn the heretic.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

It’s definitely too strong a (sweet) flavor for me, but I just dislike adding sweet sauce to savory things. I also find barbecue and teriyaki sauce unpleasant for the same reason.

Chilies and spices are fine by me though, and tbf, I wouldn’t ever describe ketchup as spicy.

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[–] smoker@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I feel like a lot of people are taking the post too literally (or maybe I’m not). I once knew a girl who posted a photo of her dad watching football on a plane captioned “Persian dads really need their football lol” and it’s like. That’s just a universal dad thing. Lots of dads in every culture do that.

Some people just do not think about cultures outside their own. Like, at all.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The cultural equivalent of:

"So what do you like to do?"

"I like to have fun."

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Some cultures value food more than others. Pretty obvious there's a spectrum between "we eat for sustenance" and "holy shit taste this recipe I've been honing for decades". This is a shit post, not a shitpost.

[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've moved to England 5 years ago. I can confirm a worrying amount of people don't care for food at all here.

Instead of a nice meal, when they want to enjoy a convivial moment, they burn shredded black leaves in boiling water, add milk to it to cover the terrible taste, and call that tea. And if you don't ruin it in the exact specific way that they designed, they get angry (but they don't understand why e.g. Italian and French people are so particular about their traditional recipes).

Send help.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In my culture we had nothing but roadkill and weeds to eat, so we got really good at making stuff palatable. << Most cultural food legends.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago (11 children)

i mean. have you encountered soylent culture? white people get marketed to like eating sucks and all your nutrients should come in a tube

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[–] gergolippai@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Well, seeing the chemical waste people eat in the US, I do think they hate real food. Also in my culture (Dutch) food isn't as important as it is in Italy for example. We eat rather healthy, but the best quality food we produce we export because we love money more than food apparently. For the best quality food produced in the Netherlands you need to go to a supermarket in France. It's stupid.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

This is what I imagine elves are like.

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