Desperation?
People don't want to have kids. I wonder why. Remember the laying flat movement and the 996 culture.
I wonder why.
If only there was an actual solution to this LOLOL....
this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2025
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If I lived under an authoritarian regime, I would not want to bring a child into it.
The truth is that the strength of a democracy has little relation to the birth rate. If you live in the US, for example, you only live in a democracy if your income is in the top 10%. This has actually been studied. The opinions of the poorest 90% of the population have absolutely zero bearing on what government policy is implemented.
The US and China actually have similar levels of democracy. China forms all its policies from the CCP, an organization of about 100 million people. The share of the population in China that has any impact on policy is actually quite similar to the share that does the same in the US.
While you are correct, taking a piss poor example of democracy against another piss poor example of democracy doesn't really explain anything. I said authoritarian regime, I stand by that.
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Ehh, the character of the regime doesn't seem to affect birth rates a whole lot. Brutal dictatorships that make China seem like a gentle puppy could have perfectly ok birth rates. E.g. Nazi Germany had 2.5 fertility rate in 1939 and 1940, it was their highest since 1922: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany
I really don't think the average Chinese cares too much about how authoritarian their govt is when it comes to deciding on whether to have kids. The consequences of one-child policy, economic prospects, stability, general cultural optimism/pessimism, social habits (and the effects of technology on them), etc. are all likely to be much more important factors.
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I live in a democracy and don't want to bring children into this.
HCOL, many graduates are having impossible time of finding jobs, plus china trying to lure graduates/phd from the states has incensed them as well.
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Good. Can’t wait to beat this drum to hopefully shame the less than useless US congress to do ANYTHING.
I mean, shaming America's greatness against other countries has worked in the past. That's how we got:
- Universal healthcare
- Mandated paid maternity/parental leave
- More than two dominant political parties
- Cheaper or free college education
- High-speed passenger rail
- Mandated annual paid vacation time
Oh wait.
The Congress of today likely won't. But the people who takes their vacated seats? Possibly.
BUT.
AT.
WHAT.
COST!
Yeah! Why would China spend that money on their people when they could spend it on their military and use their military to harass brown countries?
I mean, China does also spend on their military and harass brown countries.
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1786968298636423210
Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture
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Anything to help people that want to have children is good.
that want to have children
As long as people who don't want to have children aren't pressured. Not everyone is interested in parenting, and that needs to be accepted.
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Childbirth costs isn't what's preventing people from having babies though
You're right, falling birth rates are affecting people in rich and poor countries alike.
I think the answer is more complicated and has a lot to do with our collective psychology as a species, what we're consuming and what we're feeling about our futures.
That said, money and cost do play a huge role in this. People have complicated feelings on having families right now, and the barrier of cost is a great idea for the brain to seize onto as a validation for avoiding continuation of the species.
In China even high schools are paid, the answer is not complicated in this case. It’s just crazy expensive to have children in China with the local salaries
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Given how overpopulated the planet is, I'm not a fan
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It's great, but I had kind of assumed it was already in place.
China has a far weaker social safety net than a lot of people assume.
I asumed little, but childbirth I thought would.
Especially considering the pedestal it lives on on Lemmy.
If they're are covered, why or how are they out of pocket?
I think once they are covered, they will no longer be uncovered. I.e. no longer be out of pocket.
Still you have to pay to raise them, which I’m guessing is the main factor for people not to want children. Which I suppose is what the government is trying to encourage here.
They don't have universal healthcare?
Also DYK China now has a 3 child policy. Maximum, that is.
The only thing that's free in the people's hospital is walking in the door.
But it is all very cheap, I got an xray, ultrasound, and consult for like 15 USD. Cuba seems to have a better model regarding healthcare.
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no.. they canceled that, and now want you to pop out as many slaves as possible
no… they canceled that
This shit is so easy to check before you click "reply" I have no idea why we can't be asked to spend several seconds on a basic google search before spilling whatever is on our mind. You can hate China for whatever reasons, but let's not share factually incorrect information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-child_policy
edit: why am I not at all surprised your mod history is filled with hate towards Asian people.
Why would they bother checking themselves when it's easier to post misinformation and wait for someone to correct it?
I wish the USA did. Quiverfull is a bane.
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