At this point why would anyone from civilized world even want to visit the ex-colonies?
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Hey, what did Canada do? Or eTA isn't even as invasive as the EU's proposed ETIAS, and certainly nothing approaching the anal-probe-level personal violations of the ESTA. And we need tourism. The US is fucking our economy in a massive way.
Every other country should apply the same list on US citizens.
Or just ban US citizens. Fuck them.
The people trying to escape are not the ones you should be angry at. Those are often the first people sent to the camps.
Don't be like your enemy, be better;
USA citizens did nothing wrong (beside voting trump but it's not all of them ofc)
Edit: i don't understand why y'all want to punish every citizen of USA, even those that did not voted trump or those that are actively agains him and do protests
It's like saying Russian people did nothing wrong besides voting for Putin, but it's not all of them ofc.
I would agree if it weren't painfully obvious the Russian elections that brought put in in weren't heavily influenced by putin-run domestic terrorism and election fraud.
Wait, actually, it still is a good comparison.
Carry on.
I am saying that not all USA citizens voted trump so they shouldn't be punished for that, it's like if i suddently decide to ban all german people from my country because of hitler, it just make no sense at all
So maybe other countries should require US citizens to submit their last five years of social media history so they can block any maga idiots. ;-)
In both cases, the war machine will become weaker if it's easier for the smart ones to leave.
Yep and the ones traveling internationally probably didn't vote for Trump but idiots love to downvote a good point.
If we did this to the Republican party I wonder how many rape cases would be solved.
None when they run things.
Solved, not prosecuted.
It's the fascist populist playbook in action again
- Campaign under "bringing things back to the old ways"
- Implementation of exploitation
- Make it harder to leave
- Make it harder for others to enter
A lot of that list is just info I don't have. I don't even know most of my family's current number, you expect the past?
The IP one is hilarious. I've likely had hundreds of IPs in the last 5 years, and I don't know any of them. Would you just send a range of potential options or do they expect me to know and write out hundreds of IP addresses? The total range of every carrier I've used in the last 5 years?
I've had the same IP address forever: 127.0.0.1.
Me too, ::1
I used to be a 10.1.1.1 but I've been mobile hotspot exclusive for years now and I have no fucking clue what internal IP my phone uses
Would you just send a range of potential options
0.0.0.0/0
::/0
Something in that range.
I would guess your average person couldn't tell you what an IP address is.
Ummm... I'm pretty sure it's 255.255.255.0 ? ...or maybe it's .256...
No wait, it's [ABCD::EFGH]
I wonder how will they react if I say that I don't have any social media accounts.
But I guess I'll keep wondering since my interest on going to that shithole has been plummetting for the last 20 years and right now is at below zero levels.
There is zero chance I could accurately provide this information to anyone, none of my family members could, because they don't know the phone numbers I've had... All around it sounds like a shit idea.
It's an attempt on intimidation, because supposedly for the person travelling it's a lose-lose:
- provide all your data, and allow the US government (and any connected entities (big tech)) to use it to track and sell that data
- don't provide all your data, and when the US government suspects that you did that, they can bar entry for little reason, and/or have legal grounds(/excuse) for go after you
All around it's a humiliation and intimidation exercise
It’s a protectionist policy. This is designed to keep people from entering as not many will want to give out the required.
Well, it was signed by Shitler, so what would you expect.
ESTA?
Everyone Stay Thefuck Away?
It's ok, I'll just do vacation somewhere else.
Translation: Musk said "Here, sign this and then we go to McDonald's!" and Trump was like "ALL RIGHT!"
Email adresses is gonna be fun with my catch all.
Aren’t all EU countries on the list of visa free - waived ESTA requirements countries ? Thought that was the case? Or has that been reversed?
AFAIK that’s still the case. But that has always included the requirement to fill out a form, providing some information. I remember things like „are you a terrorist“ and such. So it has just been extended a little.
Yes, I wonder why that "are you a terrorist" question isn't enough for them.
No it's not,because they realised that NO was the answer a real terrorist would have given
Lying on that form is a crime. The purpose is to actually have a crime committed if they later find you're affiliated with Al Qaeda.
Yeah, this data is requested in addition to existing data already requested in ESTA application
No. Romania, for example, is not. It was announced in January that we would enter the program but then they removed us in June.
Well we can't say it's just Trump only hates darkies. I am of the opinion Trump wants to destroy the world as revenge for his dying.
None of this will ever be used maliciously in any way shape or form, and it will all be stored in a secure, air gapped server
/s
Get fucked
mfw I don't know most of the required information.