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High Value Data Elements

To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4,
2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline
Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the
ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information
already collected in the ESTA application.

The high value data fields include:
a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;
c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;
d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);
e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;
f. Family member dates of birth;
g. Family member places of birth;
h. Family member residencies;
i. Biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;
j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;
k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (6 children)

At this point why would anyone from civilized world even want to visit the ex-colonies?

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey, what did Canada do? Or eTA isn't even as invasive as the EU's proposed ETIAS, and certainly nothing approaching the anal-probe-level personal violations of the ESTA. And we need tourism. The US is fucking our economy in a massive way.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Every other country should apply the same list on US citizens.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or just ban US citizens. Fuck them.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The people trying to escape are not the ones you should be angry at. Those are often the first people sent to the camps.

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Don't be like your enemy, be better;

USA citizens did nothing wrong (beside voting trump but it's not all of them ofc)

Edit: i don't understand why y'all want to punish every citizen of USA, even those that did not voted trump or those that are actively agains him and do protests

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's like saying Russian people did nothing wrong besides voting for Putin, but it's not all of them ofc.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 12 points 1 day ago

I would agree if it weren't painfully obvious the Russian elections that brought put in in weren't heavily influenced by putin-run domestic terrorism and election fraud.

Wait, actually, it still is a good comparison.

Carry on.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I am saying that not all USA citizens voted trump so they shouldn't be punished for that, it's like if i suddently decide to ban all german people from my country because of hitler, it just make no sense at all

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

So maybe other countries should require US citizens to submit their last five years of social media history so they can block any maga idiots. ;-)

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

In both cases, the war machine will become weaker if it's easier for the smart ones to leave.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Yep and the ones traveling internationally probably didn't vote for Trump but idiots love to downvote a good point.

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[–] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we did this to the Republican party I wonder how many rape cases would be solved.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

None when they run things.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Solved, not prosecuted.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 day ago

It's the fascist populist playbook in action again

  1. Campaign under "bringing things back to the old ways"
  2. Implementation of exploitation
  3. Make it harder to leave
  4. Make it harder for others to enter
[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A lot of that list is just info I don't have. I don't even know most of my family's current number, you expect the past?

The IP one is hilarious. I've likely had hundreds of IPs in the last 5 years, and I don't know any of them. Would you just send a range of potential options or do they expect me to know and write out hundreds of IP addresses? The total range of every carrier I've used in the last 5 years?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've had the same IP address forever: 127.0.0.1.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool, mine is 192.168.0.1!

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[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Me too, ::1

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I used to be a 10.1.1.1 but I've been mobile hotspot exclusive for years now and I have no fucking clue what internal IP my phone uses

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago

Would you just send a range of potential options

0.0.0.0/0
::/0

Something in that range.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I would guess your average person couldn't tell you what an IP address is.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ummm... I'm pretty sure it's 255.255.255.0 ? ...or maybe it's .256...

No wait, it's [ABCD::EFGH]

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wonder how will they react if I say that I don't have any social media accounts.

But I guess I'll keep wondering since my interest on going to that shithole has been plummetting for the last 20 years and right now is at below zero levels.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is zero chance I could accurately provide this information to anyone, none of my family members could, because they don't know the phone numbers I've had... All around it sounds like a shit idea.

[–] jojo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's an attempt on intimidation, because supposedly for the person travelling it's a lose-lose:

  • provide all your data, and allow the US government (and any connected entities (big tech)) to use it to track and sell that data
  • don't provide all your data, and when the US government suspects that you did that, they can bar entry for little reason, and/or have legal grounds(/excuse) for go after you

All around it's a humiliation and intimidation exercise

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It’s a protectionist policy. This is designed to keep people from entering as not many will want to give out the required.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Well, it was signed by Shitler, so what would you expect.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 day ago

ESTA?

Everyone Stay Thefuck Away?

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 29 points 1 day ago

It's ok, I'll just do vacation somewhere else.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Translation: Musk said "Here, sign this and then we go to McDonald's!" and Trump was like "ALL RIGHT!"

[–] rubdos@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Email adresses is gonna be fun with my catch all.

[–] alisdairmills@europe.pub 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Aren’t all EU countries on the list of visa free - waived ESTA requirements countries ? Thought that was the case? Or has that been reversed?

[–] NochMehrG@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AFAIK that’s still the case. But that has always included the requirement to fill out a form, providing some information. I remember things like „are you a terrorist“ and such. So it has just been extended a little.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I wonder why that "are you a terrorist" question isn't enough for them.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No it's not,because they realised that NO was the answer a real terrorist would have given

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Lying on that form is a crime. The purpose is to actually have a crime committed if they later find you're affiliated with Al Qaeda.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this data is requested in addition to existing data already requested in ESTA application

[–] nokama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

No. Romania, for example, is not. It was announced in January that we would enter the program but then they removed us in June.

https://www.niskanencenter.org/romania-was-removed-from-the-visa-waiver-program-heres-what-it-can-do-to-reverse-this/

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Well we can't say it's just Trump only hates darkies. I am of the opinion Trump wants to destroy the world as revenge for his dying.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

None of this will ever be used maliciously in any way shape or form, and it will all be stored in a secure, air gapped server

/s

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[–] Osan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

mfw I don't know most of the required information.

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