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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I thought about buying a framework 12 for kicks but it's Intel only and for that reason I'm oooout.

[–] mpdarkguy@piefed.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Intel's laptop CPUs were never bad tho? Is it just a solidarity thing because of the 13th and 14th gen processors frying themselves?

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

AMD fucks Intel hard since the birth of Ryzen CPUs, AMD Ryzen CPUs are more power efficient than intel which is ideal for laptops and Ryzen CPUs are a bit cheaper than with intel, also Ryzen iGPUs are more powerful than intel which is bonus

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They're power hungry for about the same performance as AMD. At least the i-series

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Buying anything that isn't an x3D CPU at this point is abject stupidity.

Intel CPUs might as well be worthless piles of sand. Hotter slower and higher battery usage.

As far as laptops are concerned Intel has not a single sku worth the sand it's made of.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

That's the reason why I bought a 13 despite coming from multiple touch-screen laptops

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

AMD marches "against Intel"? Is there some sort of confrontation going on between the 2? Or does this just mean AMD makes good processors and sells better?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I personally just don’t trust Intel. A lot of people just treat them as the default, but if you’ve been following the news for the last few years, there is a lot to be skeptical of quality wise.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

AMD: "Our partners will fry your expensive CPU on some boards."
INTEL: "Our software will fry your expensive CPU on all boards."

[–] 123@programming.dev 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

NVIDIA: "Our partners will fry the planet for all!"

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The US government has stake in Intel. Don’t trust them anymore.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

"EndeavourOS 0.07%"

Let's goooo! There are dozens of us!!

[–] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Checking in

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Recently tried CachyOS on my HTPC. Couldn't get Sunshine to run. It looked beautiful though and the docs seemed really in-depth. Endeavour (thanks to Arch, I know) is just so stable and fast. Just the right amount of pre-installed stuff like reflector, yay, the firewall-config app for firewalld with sane defaults, nice BTRFS subvolume layout, correct NVidia drivers. Would be nice to have Limine (for BTRFS snapshots) as an option besides SystemD boot and Grub in Calamares but I installed it in addition to SystemD boot. Gaming works tremendously good. Everything else too.

I really can't recall the last time an update went wrong. On both of my machines (one Intel, one AMD, both NVidia).

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sunshine was pretty effortless on cachyos for me, did you install it using pacman?

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes AFAIK it is in the extra repo, which I'd always prefer to the AUR. Thing is, I tried Apollo beforehand, as I wanted clipboard support, which was probably only available in the AUR. Maybe that borked something with the install. I could install Sunshine though but Moonlight from my main Endeavor install couldn't make any connection even with opening all the wanted ports in the firewall.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Don't want to diss CachyOS. They're sure doing tremendous work for the gaming community and all the default themes for the different WMs and DEs look enticing. I'm sure this was a case of PEBKAC.

[–] LievitoPadre@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You need to install CUDA first, if you have a Nvidia card. Limine is already an option when you install the os.

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's your experience with gaming on endeavourOS been? What games do you play? Any issues with graphics or sound?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pretty much everything I've tried has worked seamlessly out of the box. Obviously, the same issues crop up as with any other Linux system: you pretty much cannot play kernel level anticheat games, womp womp. I might have installed my video drivers myself, I honestly don't recall, but it's as easy as grabbing them from pacman.

For my particular setup, I'm using an Nvidia card and mostly only use Steam for games, although I have gotten Proton to work with a couple of games outside of Steam.

In case you're new to Linux in general, when I first installed Steam, I noticed I could only play a small fraction of my games and was disheartened, but you just have to turn on the Proton compatibility layer and you're good to go.

I do also have a Windows 11 VM for any compatibility issues, but I honestly haven't booted it up in months.

[–] de_lancre@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

all-time high

It's 3.2%

I mean, sure, big headline is cool. But it's 3.2%

[–] addie@feddit.uk 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Closing in on 8% if you filter it by "English language only". Chinese speakers overwhelmingly (almost exclusively) use Windows and make up about 30% of all Steam users, which skews the rest-of-world results. And I wouldn't consider 8% of all prospective sales to be a joke, especially since that number only keeps on rising and by the time you've spent a few years writing a game it's likely to be quite a bit more.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Why stop there? If you filter it by “users not using windows” we can get that number over 90%!

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Massaging the data to meet your desired stats. Like a politician.

Why not exclude even more countries that mostly use windows and then say "99% of steam users are using Linux*"

~*based on users in Afghanistan only~

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hey! I'll have you know that 100% of steam users * are using linux.

* sample size : me

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

We should survey the linux_gaming community. That will give us a larger sample size that's definitely representative of the broader trends

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you exclude non English language, you have to exclude their sales too.. unless you're suggesting the Chinese users that make up 30% of steam users don't buy anything...

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I mean...they considered piracy, and cheating, valid for a long time.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

3.2% on a gaming hardware survey is fucking insane stats for Linux though. Three years ago that wouldn't have been believable.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's 3.2% of Steam Linux installs. The actual number is higher.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not much of a gamer, not because I don't like to game, but because I'm old and have little time for it. That has made Fedora Workstation my preferred desktop/laptop OS for the last 6 years or so. Maybe that's the reason why I just can't understand why people keep putting up with Microsoft's bullshit.

I have tried Endeavour about 4 times over the years, but in trying to 'make it my own' I always end up breaking it badly and come back to Fedora for a stable few months before going on a distro-hop riot all over again. Linux certainly is a lovely drug to be hooked on 😁

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel you. Ive been going through this loop over and pver again. Ive landed on the fedora based Universal Blue for this reason. Bluefin for my desktop and bazzite for my gaming PCs. Sometimes you just want your system to be stable and get out of your way and i really appreciate thay about fedora.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was the one Distro that appealed to my wife enough for her to allow me to switch her Windows in her work PC. Now she hates to have to go to her windows laptop to do some taxes shit in our country every month because they only allow excel.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesn't one of the office alternatives do .xlsx? Or at least use the web version of excel?

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only Office and LibreOffice do, I but the macros used by our tax authority completely break there, so she's left with the excel option alone.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go figure, but the web version of excel should work.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

According to her, it didn't work. I have no idea what macros those are, and in all honesty, I don't care either, as I don't have to do it (I know that's a douche comment, but here we are). As long as I'm not the one hack g to deal with that crap, I'm not even asking. At the end of the day, that's all she uses that laptop for, the rest is either company hosted or self hosted and she can use it all on her phone or tablet when she's out and about or in her PC when I get home the office.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, I've been experimenting with different Linux distros since 2008 and I was pretty skeptical about "Atomic" distros when they first started buzzing around a few years ago.

However, this past year we've had to make the jump to Linux due to windows 11 shenanigans. But let me tell you. She's got Bazzite and I've had to distro hop different arch distros.

But let me tell you, I am incredibly jealous of the amount of things that "just work™️" on her setup. Things that I've had to track down on obscure forums. Avoiding footguns and landmines.

I used to recommend Ubuntu, then it was Linux Mint, and now, I recommend any Atomic distro that fits your purpose.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

I tried Ubuntu first, because I had heard of it, and too many things didn't work. At the time I was still on that other link aggregator platform and the Linux nerds there told me to try Mint and they were right. It just worked and I have happily run that ever since. It does what I do and isn't Microsoft or the overpriced fruit company. I have no urge to distro hop at all. Fussing with my computer isn't fun for me, I just want to use it sometimes. I agree, though, Linux is good and there's something for everyone.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 8 points 2 days ago

Full survey with some historical charts here

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] silt_haddock@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve been putting off switching because of everything I have setup for work, but next week I have a new laptop arriving and I’ll be wiping the pre-installed  windows and chucking probably fedora on it.

Once I have that first one done, I’ll be able to start moving all my others. I have a bunch of Hyper-V VMs that I need to migrate which has been the main cause of my hesitation. 

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Check fan speed volume before and after linux to see how many background AI scrapers were removed lmao.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sweet, I contributed to both those categories.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

will valve fix amd pcvr i wonder?

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