this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2025
928 points (98.6% liked)

Programmer Humor

27601 readers
2618 users here now

Welcome to Programmer Humor!

This is a place where you can post jokes, memes, humor, etc. related to programming!

For sharing awful code theres also Programming Horror.

Rules

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone 169 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

That's exactly the point. They did spare expenses, on a lot of things.

John Hammond Jurassic Park book spoilersJohn Hammond is clearly portrayed as a villain in the book. They lightened him up in the movie.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 75 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

because it's impossible for richard attenborough to be a villain

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] fonix232@fedia.io 65 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The movie really dumbed Hammond down to "overly optimistic money guy with a vision". Which was a bit distasteful if you've read the books. Just a bit.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe. I really preferred the movie version. Sometimes I prefer to like characters. I enjoyed the story more.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 16 points 10 hours ago

I liked movie Hammond too, don't get me wrong. It's just a completely different story because of the character shift.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 49 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Supposedly, that is the whole deal with the Chilean Sea Bass that he gloats about. Spared no expense. Apparently that fish sounds fancy, but is actually super cheap. The whole park needed to have the shine of a top-of-the-line facility, but in the end, Ingen and Hammond had no idea what they were really cooking up.

The raptors for instance, I always got the feeling that paddock was kind of small and rapidly constructed. Those things had killed multiple people in the past, and the park's response was cram them into a jail cell. You'd think an intelligent, dangerous animal, that was not part of the tour or experience would be euthanized, rather than risk the whole park...but here is Ingen not dealing with the problem, and instead, actively making more raptors.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 21 points 12 hours ago

They just needed Chris Pratt, Raptor Whisperer and they would have been fine.

[–] watson@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

The book was a million times better than the movie. It was the first time I had read a novel that was turned into a movie and then saw the movie after reading the novel.

14-year-old me had never been so disappointed. And it taught me to never ever read the book before the movie.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 17 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I saw once that the reason Kristen Stewart was so hated in the Twilight movies is because all the young women who grew up reading the books imagined themselves as Bella. They were never going to like whichever actress was cast into the role since they would no longer be able to project their own likeness onto the protagonist.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] watson@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

For me, it was really mostly the story changes they made so the movie could be rated PG instead of R. They also made some changes to some of the characters and the dialogue which made it come off a lot more cheesy than the book. Although, I will say, gender swapping the kids was a good move. I liked that it was the girl who was the UNIX whiz. In 1993, that felt like an especially fresh take.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

My wife always gets excited when a book she loves is being adapted (right now Verity and project hail Mary) but I learned from many disappointments to not get excited. I still watch most of them but I don't expect too much

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago

He was evil in the books and was horrible to Nedrey

[–] GrantsGhost@piefed.zip 84 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This joke comes from people ignoring the following:

  1. The presence of Ray Arnold the Chief Engineer who also worked with computers (not to the same level as Nedry)

  2. Jurassic Park was operating with a skeleton crew at the time and Hammond thought the automated systems would work because he was assured as much from his Chief IT guy.

  3. Nedry has a whole team working on the park's IT system. And I'm not just referencing book material. Hammond even said in the BLOODY movie "call Nedry's team on the main land" when shit started going down.

So no. Hammond was not stupid enough to trust the entire park's computer infrastructure on just one guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

The presence of Ray Arnold the Chief Engineer

Two IT guys

Jurassic Park was operating with a skeleton crew at the time

The opening scene - a working class schlub dragged into the Velociraptor cage because the transport protocols weren't up to the task of containing a dinosaur - illustrates the core conceit of the movie. That humans and their modern technology simply aren't ready to contend with a far more primal and powerful animal kingdom.

The hurricane flushing everyone off the island illustrated a major vulnerability. But the premise of the movie is that this park was never going to work precisely because the people running it were consumed by their own hubris and incapable of seeing the full extend of risk at play.

Nedry has a whole team working on the park’s IT system.

A team he's undercut and sabotaged in order to afford him the opportunity to steal Hammond's embryos. The subsequent movies are all around various mega-corps trying to seize control of the island and its bounty of dinosaur specimens and failing time and time again. The issue isn't merely that they're cheap, its that they're all greedy, myopic, and self-destructive.

Hammond was not stupid enough to trust the entire park’s computer infrastructure on just one guy.

He was stupid enough to get locked out of his own systems by trusting a skeleton crew to manage the park during a hurricane. But that's just the kick-off of the story. Crichton could have written it differently - an engineering problem that the hurricane exposed, dinosaurs that outsmarted the security, the EPA coming in to shut the park down Ghostbusters style, animal liberation activists trying to free the dinosaurs - and ended in the same place.

In many ways, Jurassic Park is a retelling of King Kong. Just swap out the big monkey for a big lizard. But the core of the story - the belief that humans can turn these primal forces into an entertainment commodity revealing man's hubris - is tied up in Hammond's belief in his ability to control the uncontrollable.

Nedry is just an example of one more thing Hammond can't control.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I wasn't ready for this level of quantum level analysis of Jurassic Park.

I'M JUST HERE FOR THE DINOSAURS!!

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] cattywampas@midwest.social 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Also, it's not like the problems were only caused by Nedry or his team being understaffed or incompetent. Quite the opposite. He was a bad actor. And a bad actor in the right position can cause a lot of damage. He purposefully sabotaged the park in a way that couldn't have been easily averted.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Wayne Knight is a fine actor, what are you talking about.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 41 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He is the only one on the island but there are more developers. Hammond even says to “call his team In Cambridge”.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 40 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've always said the real moral of Jurrasic Park was "don't fuck with IT"

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In the book it was a huge amount of scope creep, Hammond refusing to pay for it and then acting all entitled.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Just like in the real world.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 39 points 14 hours ago (14 children)

Ah, a rubber duck debugging adherent. At least they paid good money for a professional.

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 11 points 14 hours ago

That's a stress ball

load more comments (13 replies)
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 28 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I dont remember the movie well but I thought everyone left the island and this was the minimum team left behind.

[–] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Yes, Nedry owned his IT company, but Hammond was withholding Nedry's final paycheck until debugging was done. Which had already gone over budget due to feature creep, so Nedry was doing it himself because he didn't have money to pay his people because Hammond wouldn't give him the money they agreed on. Hence why Nedry was looking to make some side money, he's literally doing all that debugging and final system fixes for free on the promise that he won't be screwed again by Hammond. IIRC anyway, its been like 30 years since I read the book... And a lot of my perspective changed as I got older and I got more experience in the industry. As a kid, I thought you took the job you should do the job, but as an adult I understand a lot better the dynamics of the situation and while I still think if you took the job you should do the job, I completely understand the feeling of getting Fucked by someone who would rather throw money at lawyers than just pay what they agreed on.

I have been in his position, and while I didn't betray the client and get killed, I really understand his mindset and "Fuck-it" attitude. Hammond is wealthy and using his position and power to spare as much expense as possible and step on as many contractors as possible. Kind of like an Orange Cheeto I know of. I had a company I work for that had to file bankruptcy because a half-billion dollar a year company hired us then charged back their initial payment and refused to issue final payment unless we did a ton of extra work, and when we did that, they just said "thanks" and vanished. Apparently American Express lets you contest a payment 6-12 months after it was issued and their stance is if you want your money you should sue.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 11 points 11 hours ago

Yes, they were on a reduced crew because of a storm.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 24 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Samuel L was also an IT guy, right? But yes, an expense was spared

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Nedry was the systems engineer, Arnold was the operations admin. One was a construction worker, the other was the architect. Neither can truly do the other's job, but are aware of how they do it.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Newman had multiple monitors before it was cool.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Was it multiple monitors or multiple systems? Can't see if there's another keyboard and mouse there in front of the one behind him. Though I suppose it was all supposed to be mainframe terminals (running Linux in the movie, which I'm not sure had a mainframe version, as I understand, it started as a Unix for desktops, where Unix was the mainframe OS).

Edit: the Linux thing was my own bad memory, Lex recognizes Unix, which is weird because it was an experimental unix filesystem browser UI and most kids wouldn't have access to machines that run any kind of unix, so it wouldn't have been a "I played with some computers in my garage" kind of thing. Though being Hammond's grandkids, it's not outside the realm of possibility that she did have access to a mainframe either through Hammond's companies or from access to universities and the like.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago

Holy shit, this thread made me realize Hammond invited the scientists and grandkids to the island with a hurricane inbound. Not like those things just pop up like tornadoes. You know it's coming as much as a week in advance.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He also had Samuel L Jackson.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 36 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Arnold was an engineer, though. He was competent in using the system and not totally lost when poking around the code, but he's no computer scientist. Basically, he was a power user / sysadmin rather than a developer.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 28 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] innermeerkat@jlai.lu 19 points 13 hours ago

I understand your opinion of sysadmins but they still fit the definition of an IT guy

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 21 points 13 hours ago
[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

one it guy who you could distract with a shiny can of shaving cream

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't even, all of us thought that can was cool

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

As a young child who didn't yet know what Barbasol was, I was still a little disappointed to find out that the can was not, in fact, filled with delicious whipped cream

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

When I was young I thought "who needs 3 computers at once ?"

Now I get it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 15 points 13 hours ago

Pretty farken standard. IT isn't considered important unless they want their personal laptop de-porned

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Jurassic Park is a tale of dangers of not investing enough on IT

load more comments
view more: next ›