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[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

As an American I think I'm going insane? The last 3 weeks have been some of the most anxious and stressed I've ever been.

Trump's first term was nothing like this, there's a feeling of apathy in the air among people and coworkers (I live in a very liberal city in the deep south). Folks around here just seem to be on edge at all times, whether you're pro or anti in a much more divisive way.

There's a strange feeling knowing there's a solid chance we won't make it out of this one. There have been plenty of times in the past where we've had doom and gloom (Trump v1, conservatives and Obama), etc. Nothing ever happens, but this time I'm fairly confident the country I was born into will be dead and gone given the shear destruction being waged against our institutions.

I'm protesting and will continue to do what is needed to ensure 47 isn't the final chapter.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Protesting is a good start, but I'd say the McMillan TAC-50 is a better choice at this point.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm fairly confident the country I was born into will be dead and gone

I do feel bad for the american citizens suffering the consequences, but the US Empire falling is a net positive for the rest of the world. Ask people from Palestine, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, who suffered the US hegemony

[–] DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Id love for the US to transition to having less influence globally without totally collapsing, but if this is how we do it, so be it.

It's kinda the devil we know situation, if the US steps down, who steps up? Are they going to be better or worse, who knows. I never really bought into the notion that we had to be the world police or that all the evil stuff we did, we did because we had to.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You may be, but clearly more than half of you are not 🤷‍♂️

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Have you checked the voter turnout? Because I didn't but it's traditionally low in the US for different reasons. And this doesn't take into account people not allowed to vote. I don't live in a utopia either but the US is especially undemocratic by design

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Surprisingly this was one of the most active elections since 1900. Others being JFK and 2020.

Nonetheless, turnout in 2024 was still high by modern standards. The 1960 election between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon (63.8 percent) is the only other election in the last 112 years to exceed 63 percent voter turnout.

The 2024 Election by the Numbers

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about this vote compared to other US elections but about the US voting system compared to other nations. 63.9% is still low for international standards. The comment above me said "half of you did", turns out it's closer to a third. And I'm not blaming the third that stayed at home, I'm blaming the system for shying them away.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

How many eligible voters chose not to out of apathy or other factors within their control?

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

I do see a lot of American replies saying “well I didn’t vote for this so it’s not my fault.”

Fault isn’t the issue for me. All Americans have a responsibility to course correct. The sooner it can be done in numbers the less risky it is for them to stand up and speak out.

I think the punchline of this meme is based in the reality I find myself in. The rest of the world is trying to figure out what life is going to be like when a former ally becomes ambivalent at best and an active adversary at worst. I really can’t be arsed to respond to every commenter who sucks the oxygen out of the room seeking absolution or exception to the anti-American sentiment.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not their fault would get a silent thumbs-up from me. I'm not judging any individual American - the current vibe is angry, but I think most Canadians have known enough of them to know many are fine.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Realistically, what do you expect at this point in time?

Trump's in office since less than a month. There have already been larger protests. With 50501, there is a movement growing. Things will take time.

I'm in favor of showing more empathy to everyone who's personally affected and didn't vote for this, including people who got robbed of their opportunity to vote.

It's unreasonable to ask already marginalized groups now "why aren't you correcting this?". There is no quick way to correct this. It will be a long and drawn-out process, and maybe will also require the insight of Americans that lying to masses is not voicing your opinion as free speech.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

God I'm so tired of this shit. I swear the intent is to downplay the danger that many of America's marginalized communities are in. That way trans people don't have anywhere to run. People with disabilities have no where to run. POC have no where to run. Most, if not all, of y'all have laws specifically forbidding refugees from the US. This is because the US has traditionally been considered a safe harbor for refugees. However, the US government is now sending immigrants to Guantanamo and threatening to do the same with trans people, people with disabilities, and so on.

We need your help. Not by stepping in and correcting course, but by giving us safe refuge. Most of us are already in very serious danger and sweating bullets while we watch the gun slowly move to point at us, but we have nowhere to run because no one accepts US refugees.

I'm trans. I'm living in Texas. I voted for Harris. I'm watching the gun as it attempts to murder my friends (I have some birthright citizenship friends) as it slowly drifts ever closer. We need your help, because right now I'm expecting that our expiration dates are less than a year away. They gotta find something to do with us once they start running out of space in Guantanamo c::

[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why are you looking at other countries when literally any state would be better than the shithole you're in? And even there I think you'll be perfectly fine in major cities.

But you're welcome to California. Not prefect, but not fucking Texas.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, uh, that hasn't stopped them from going after people in blue states.

Edit: that's a valid question, though. However, I'm concerned that it won't be enough.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Are you guys aware that the point is to show you, as a sign of camaraderie, that there are Americans who disagree with the current admin, rather than to try to get praise?

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I understand it's not as easy as a comment on The Internet but the American resistance needs to nut up and someone needs to put one between the eyes if everyone who architected or who is actively implementing Project 2025.

At this point the American military needs to stage a military coup and take back the country.

I don't think it will ever happen but wishful thinking.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Fuck me for wanting in on a discussion about how my own country is going to shit, right? I guess I'll go jump off a bridge or something

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm willing to consider California becoming the 11th province. We're gonna make these GAFAM pay for all these years of manipulation and rename the US to Naziland.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Imagine telling Jews in the Holocaust their opinions and thoughts don't matter because Hitler was elected.

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[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

You do realize we’re going through a fascist coup right?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes. And historically, what is the right response to a country that is doing that?

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Healthy dose of Bolshevism

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