Misleading headline making it sounds like all battery recycling poisons people. Half assed battery recycling is half assed.
Also sodium ion or some other lead-free formulation will likely replace lead acid 12v batteries over the next few years.
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The advantage lead acid has for ICE is that it can dump a lot of current all at once. The C output rate on sodium ion isn't that high, IIRC.
There have been lithium batteries used for the purpose. The original Miata used one because standard lead acid cells caused corrosion issues in the chassis. But lithium has its own supply chain issues.
Ultimately, this goes away because ICE cars go away.
Imagine the damage recycling EV batteries will cause.
Not to be anti-EV, but more to be pro-transits/bike.
For what it’s worth, it’s not anti anything to point out flaws. If anything, it’s being pro because it opens the door for a conversation; which, if both sides come at it in good faith, can lead to change.
if both sides come at it in good faith
ahahahah, good one
I like it, but it’s contingent on Americans actually wanting to solve the issue instead of one upping each other.
Yes, but there are a few of us out there who want to see good things happen for all people.
Americans are unlikely to solve anything until their society goes through some dramatic changes.
That’ll take generations, we’re so absolutely fucked in this shit hole
Gotta start somewhere, and gotta keep at it. It’s difficult at times, and there certainly are people who just want to see the world burn. But fuck them. They aren’t worth our time and energy.
people who just want to see the world burn.
It stands to reason that if set on fire, their entire world will be, in fact, burning.
Maybe less. But yeah.
Which is kinda what your post is doing
Lithium and lead are drastically different elements.
This is the same shit people use to lambast vaping based of the effects of inhaling burnt plant matter.
No one is doing that. Dihydroacetone released from heated vape juice is just as carcinogenic as tobacco compounds. Huffing any chemical in high concentration is stupid.
“Just as carcinogenic” is not demonstrated by that study.
Imagine the damage recycling EV batteries will cause.
EV batteries are mostly aluminum, some lithium , carbon as graphite, small amount of cobalt and nickel. None of these are as toxic as lead, but proper lead recycling is not toxic.
EV batteries are often still good to use as they are for other purposes. Like home power storage. Their storage amount gets low enough that they aren't giving sufficient range anymore, but they still have plenty of life left in different applications.
There's a million reasons to prefer bikes and public transit over cars in general. The reasons specific to EVs are usually bullshit.