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New Zealand has announced plans to eradicate feral cats by 2050, as part of efforts to protect the country’s biodiversity.

Speaking to Radio New Zealand on Thursday, conservation minister Tama Potaka said that feral cats are “stone cold killers” and would be added to the country’s Predator Free 2050 list, which aims to eradicate those animals that have a negative impact on species such as birds, bats, lizards and insects.

Cats had previously been excluded from the list, which includes species such as stoats, ferrets, weasels, rats and possums, but Potaka used the interview to announce a U-turn.

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[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 91 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Cats are remarkably capable predators, and cat owners are remarkably irresponsible.

Letting your cat be an "outside" cat is bad enough for the environment. Not spaying/neutering said "outside cat" is how we get feral cats everywhere.

That said, I dont love the vague "eradicate feral cats" language. Would greatly prefer a broad spectrum spay/neuter/tag program to naturally reduce their population.

Predator-free NZ was always destined to ruffle some feathers though.

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

they gotta put thiel on that list

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 14 points 12 hours ago

I adopted mine, got her spayed, and she absolutely never goes outside. Not that she would, she’s too much of a chicken shit to bother trying to get out.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who donates significantly to spay/neuter efforts (in the U.S.), these irresponsible people piss me the fuck off. To the extent that I have cut people out of my social circle over the issue.

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[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I don't think just spaying is enough. It'd have to be capture or even worst case euthanize. Leaving cats and any nonnative predator is especially harsh on local species each second they are in the wild because new zealand is one of the few places with flightless birds like the kakapo, which are critically endangered (just one step away from being extinct in the wild)

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

New Zealand has no native predators, and cats are extremely good predators.

These aren’t house cats that got lost, these are cats that are entirely wild and are now an invasive species. TNR would still decimate the local fauna while waiting for nature to take its course.

They also can’t be housed like you might do with a house cat turned stray.

as much as I love house cats, in New Zealand, the feral cats are an ecological apocalypse.

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[–] MBech@feddit.dk 67 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

To the people thinking "oh poor kitties". In New Zealand, cats are like terminators (or more accurately, Predators from those movies). Pretty much everything evolved to be incredibly easy pray for cats. Sure, it sucks that cats have to die, but they're an incredibly invasive species that hunts the native species to extinction. They should've never been imported in the first place.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 24 points 12 hours ago

No one in New Zealand actually wants to go around killing cats. Euthanizing them is the tool of last resort, and it’s generally prioritized for areas where urgency is high and other more humane solutions are hard to implement.

You can’t fuck around in an island ecosystem. You have to make hard choices in order to preserve the lives of the native plants and animals.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

New zealand is extremely prone because its home to flightless birds and other similar species that never grew up against land predators of this nature. That's why cats and even rats are especially dangerous. These flightless birds have no real way of protecting their young and even themselves.

It's sad for cats because we see them as companions and pets, but new zealand holds a lot of critically endangered species that simply cannot exist anywhere else

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

All of Oceania is this. There's a lot of unique land animals that evolved with no threat. European colonisation really fucked that entire region and the ecosystems within.

On average, each roaming, hunting pet cat kills more than three animals every week. The numbers add up. On average, over a year each roaming and hunting pet cat in Australia kills 186 animals. This number includes 110 native animals (40 reptiles, 38 birds and 32 mammals).

That's for Australia's 3.7M pet cats that aren't kept indoors 24/7. So that's approx 407M native animals killed each year by cat lovers that don't responsibly take care of their cat—71% of cat owners. Factor in other contamination and habitat destruction, you can expect that to be closer or even over half a billion native animals killed each year.

So, yeah, Oceania countries will hunt and kill cats. And anyone that doesn't keep their cat inside or at least bell it's collar, is a real piece of shit. Certainly doesn't give a fuck about animals and the environment. It's a totally different part of the world to Eurasia where it's fine to just have strays all over the countryside because they're actually a part of the functioning ecosystem.

Source: https://biodiversitycouncil.org.au/resources/the-impact-of-roaming-pet-cats-on-australian-wildlife

[–] No1@aussie.zone 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That's pet cats and doesn't count the damage that feral cats do.

Here claims that Australia’s Cats Kill Two Billion Animals Annually, with feral cats killing 1.4 Billion.

I've personally scraped up native birds and possums that were killed by neighbours roaming pet cats. Most not eaten. And some just paralysed and left that I called WIRES wildlife rescue for. It's heartbreaking. These poor little critters didn't deserve an ending like that.

Cats like hunting. Please keep your kitty inside.

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[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 33 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Cats must only be indoor pets. We can easily separate pet mice and rats from their feral counterparts and we need to do the same to cats. And I am a cat person big time.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

Same.

Love cats.

Keep them in doors.

Outdoor cats and feral cats are walking, prowling ecological disasters.

[–] xvertigox@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

+1 for indoor only cats. Those cunts are ruthless - they can't not murder wild animals and we've got a lot of native birds here so keep em indoors.

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Feral cats cause the ultimate destruction to local wildlife. They are so common, one of the worst invasive species. And New Zealand’s an island with precious endemic wildlife not found anywhere else in the world. So yeah - it’s about time! Bravo NZ for doing the right thing.

Edit: They need to do this in Hawaii too!

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 18 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Most people have not seen a feral cat and assume that they are just domestic cats living rough. Couldn’t be further from the truth. Savage predators loose in the bush and Australia has millions of them.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, there's a wild difference between "feral" city/suburbia cats, and actual wild feral cats.

I used to live in a pretty rural area in Hungary, butt end of suburbia, backing into the endless fields of wheat and corn, interrupted only by small patches of "woodland" (really just a dozen or so trees occupying a small area, enough to block the view but not big enough to house any larger animals, it's mostly birds, rodents and feral cats).

There used to be maybe ten colonies of feral cats in my immediate area, and those fuckers would fuck you up proper. They hated humans, and would cross half a field, a four lane road, and a canal just to attack you. Many a times I had to run from the bus stop to home to avoid a trip to tetanus and rabies land...

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 4 points 10 hours ago

Definitely a cautionary tale.

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[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Funnily enough I just got recommended to rewatch this old vid from tom scott

https://youtu.be/wcp1BfPUeOc

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[–] Ogy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The dairy industry is significantly more damaging to NZ's ecology than some feral cats. I'm not saying it shouldn't be addressed, but there are measures already in place. It's important to keep perspective and not be distracted by media.

[–] amorangi@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 hours ago

It's possible to do two things at a time. Cats and dairy are not mutually exclusive.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

With everything deadlined to 2050, I think that is the new end of the world

[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

All domestic cats should be fully indoor cats. Any domestic cats found outdoors should be killed. Nasty little disease spreading song bird killers.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure why this is such a controversial take. House cats should indeed not be outside, unless they are on a leash.

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[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's unfortunately far more than just birds. They kill billions of reptiles, fish, amphibians, and mammals each year. Not to mention their toxoplasmosis has been found in ocean otters (just an example of something far removed from the daily goings of a cat) and in the soil and ground water, as well as our foods. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7033973/

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

Too bad they ain't much good eatin.

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[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 2 points 8 hours ago

Here is a video of some of the efforts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH_OC0q0FPw

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Save the kiwis!

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